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Re: Lions
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:09 am
by Renniks
Spiffy wrote:I could not help but notice that many of these Lions' chaps were wearing white boots, and that includes a number of forwards.
This kind of silly exhibitionism is just not on, and simply draws attention to their large feet dangling at the end of dark socks, while making them appear awkward and plodding and rather duck-like in their gait.
Is it any surprise they played the way they did, with this unhealthy and egotistical preoccupation with the cosmetic effect of the casing of the pedal extremities?
NZ did, after all, win the last RWC with every man wearing plain black boots. You would hardly have noticed they had feet at all and it was quite easy to follow the ball.
Gatland has to act on this - now, before it's too late! The series is at stake.
Jonathan Davies did once comment on the ridiculousness of coloured boots.
His view was everyone should wear black, apart from wingers, who should wear white to increase the chance of getting away with going in touch sprinting down the wing
Re: Lions
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:32 pm
by cashead
A bloo bloo bloo bloo bloo. Who gives a fuck?
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:34 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
What a shambles.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:35 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
EinE probably crying into his Rice Krispies right now
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:59 am
by Big D
Sounds on radio like Nowell is having a fairly poor defensive game.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:05 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
Big D wrote:Sounds on radio like Nowell is having a fairly poor defensive game.
He's been predictably appalling.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:07 am
by whatisthejava
Williams gets a yellow card,
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:11 am
by General Zod
I really don't understand players who make the decision Williams made twice now. You know from about ten paces out that you're not gonna get there, so slow down and smash your opponent the instant his tiptoes hit the ground. More chance of getting the ball back than making a challenge you're unlikely to win.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:11 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
From a Scotland point of view: Daly has been invisible, Williams got himself binned, Nowell got himself skinned and Halfpenny has been tidy whilst possessing all the attacking threat of a lettuce.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:11 am
by OptimisticJock
Big D wrote:Sounds on radio like Nowell is having a fairly poor defensive game.
Virtually non existent.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:17 am
by General Zod
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:From a Scotland point of view: Daly has been invisible, Williams got himself binned, Nowell got himself skinned and Halfpenny has been tidy whilst possessing all the attacking threat of a lettuce.
Is that a Scotland point of view?
Anyway, they are shite today. Still think Lions will win.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:24 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
General Zod wrote:Eugene Wrayburn wrote:From a Scotland point of view: Daly has been invisible, Williams got himself binned, Nowell got himself skinned and Halfpenny has been tidy whilst possessing all the attacking threat of a lettuce.
Is that a Scotland point of view?
Anyway, they are shite today. Still think Lions will win.
He's referring to Hogg & Seymour's chances of making the test team.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:25 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
General Zod wrote:Eugene Wrayburn wrote:From a Scotland point of view: Daly has been invisible, Williams got himself binned, Nowell got himself skinned and Halfpenny has been tidy whilst possessing all the attacking threat of a lettuce.
Is that a Scotland point of view?
Anyway, they are shite today. Still think Lions will win.
None of your boys playing so looking at those playing in Scots positions.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:31 am
by General Zod
Ah. I had forgotten about them. Was blown away by the attacking verve of halfpenny.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:33 am
by cashead
Well, the first loss didn't take long.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:34 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
What a result! Not sure they'll be able to beat many of the Super rugby sides let alone the ABs.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:35 am
by General Zod
Highlight for me was Stuart Barnes saying "oh no" when that last line-out messed up. He should be dropped for that, along with his colleague, who together with him make it sound like they're trying to garner support for a posh boys' outing.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:44 am
by Matt Ha
Pretty miserable performance. Pack looked pretty feisty at times (I thought Mario was good) but pretty clueless and rudderless in the backs. And I'm sorry to say that H'penny is a shadow of his former self.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:01 pm
by Edinburgh in Exile
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:EinE probably crying into his Rice Krispies right now
Haha, I think I'll be alright mate.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:23 pm
by QwentyJ
Well that was a sucker punch!
It seems to me that the attack coach is basically nullifying all the individual flair of the players, apart from Halfpenny who lost it about 6 years ago. Why are we running at contact instead of looking for the space? If we have even a remote shot of beating the AB's, we have to try and attempt to fight fire with fire.
From a lions point of view, I think the front 5 had very good games, I was delighted to see Haskell and Tipuric making very good dents. Webb and Henshaw had okay games. Disappointed to not see more of Elliot Daly.
From a Scotland point of view, Tommy is in a good position to get a nod at wing if he sticks to his guns. Greig Laidlaw in that last 5 minutes played some of the quickest ball in his entire life!
Much to work on. Think we need to get serious rather than going for heart and minds...
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:58 pm
by no sleep
QwentyJ wrote:Greig Laidlaw in that last 5 minutes played some of the quickest ball in his entire life!
He did alright. Even got stuck into a couple of rucks until Marler realised that just wasn't right and let the Blues have the ball back.
So far, the guys I think have stuck their hands up have been Faletau and Farrell. Sort of good have been Sinckler, Stander, Te'o and Lawes. Owens and Seymour were okay; Hogg had okay bits but bad bits too. So far the test XV looks like
1 Gatland's mum, 2 Owens, 3 Sinckler
4 Lawes, 5 anyone Welsh probably
6 CJ Stander 7 anyone Welsh probably 8 Faletau
9 Murray (hasn't played yet, but it has to be) 10 Farrell
11 Seymour/Watson 12 Te'o 13 actually, Joseph did okay 14 AWP
15 Hogg
at least that's what it looks like to me, but I have a feeling that it will take a lot to move North and Halfpenny out of the coaches' thoughts.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:32 pm
by no sleep
Actually, Gatland's mum can stand down; Marler's got the shirt for at least not having to have Tipuric hook when he came on. The penalty maybe wasn't that bad, given that the ref had let Itoje roll twelve times in the tackle before laying the ball back.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:15 pm
by af73
For all the crap Hogg in particular had directed at him from the first game, it will be interesting to see (in the interests of balance) how those competing for his position are written up. Particularly given that the identical mistake of carrying the ball into touch was repeated. Hogg's oft cited defensive weakness was anything but compared to 1/2p who didn't so much miss a tackle as not get within 5 yards of it for the winning try.
Re: RE: Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:24 pm
by Big D
af73 wrote:For all the crap Hogg in particular had directed at him from the first game, it will be interesting to see (in the interests of balance) how those competing for his position are written up. Particularly given that the identical mistake of carrying the ball into touch was repeated. Hogg's oft cited defensive weakness was anything but compared to 1/2p who didn't so much miss a tackle as not get within 5 yards of it for the winning try.
Just watching the game now. 8 min in and Nowell caught narrow twice and for the 1st try, in the lead up there was a cross kick where 1/2p got bumped but made the tackle when in reality he should have had the guy in touch.
The fuck up of a 4 on 2 or 3 was poor too. Henshaw and the 1/2p did nothing to challenge the defence..just shovelled it on.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:37 pm
by Big D
Not in any way questioning his his overall performance and I am asking this for info.
Did the ref make a mistake just before half time by awarding a mark when the blues 15 did not make a clean catch?