Re: Good TV Shows
Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 11:40 am
Third episode - Boom. There was some reason to think this might be good - it's the first story written by Steven Moffat since 2017. Unfortunately, there's no sign that he spent much of the last 7 years thinking of this one. It has to be his worst. There's an okay idea in there and some nice lines, but everything else, almost everything that actually happens in the story is simply stupid. And this narcissistic new Doctor is starting to irritate. Despite this it's probably the best episode so far, or should I say, the least bad.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 10:13 am New season of Doctor Who. It's really not good. Space Babies is about as good as the title suggests, and seemed to be aimed at 8 year olds. It really isn't worth analysing. The Devil's Chord was better but was just a story about magic - anything could happen - and in the end seemed to be about who could ham it up the most. And the Doctor and Ruby - I'm not blaming the actors here but, Jesus if they could stop bigging themselves and each other up for a moment we might get a story.
73 yards was also extraordinarily average - I hate stories where literally everything is undone at the end and not a single person remembers. What was the point of me watching if none of it mattered or even happened and there has been no effect on anyone whatsoever? The annoying thing is that there was almost a good episode in there and that's been the same with all of the first four - there's good ideas without ever coming together into a good episode.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 5:48 pmThird episode - Boom. There was some reason to think this might be good - it's the first story written by Steven Moffat since 2017. Unfortunately, there's no sign that he spent much of the last 7 years thinking of this one. It has to be his worst. There's an okay idea in there and some nice lines, but everything else, almost everything that actually happens in the story is simply stupid. And this narcissistic new Doctor is starting to irritate. Despite this it's probably the best episode so far, or should I say, the least bad.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 10:13 am New season of Doctor Who. It's really not good. Space Babies is about as good as the title suggests, and seemed to be aimed at 8 year olds. It really isn't worth analysing. The Devil's Chord was better but was just a story about magic - anything could happen - and in the end seemed to be about who could ham it up the most. And the Doctor and Ruby - I'm not blaming the actors here but, Jesus if they could stop bigging themselves and each other up for a moment we might get a story.
73 Yards had a good atmosphere and some nice ideas (if not exactly original), but was ruined by the end which didn't even attempt to explain anything in the story. And it was not just ambiguous - it didn't make sense - there was no explanation which would have tied it all together. Although some have said that was deliberate I think it's more likely that RTD didn't have a great explanation either, so simply left it that way. I get that it was a *magic* story but you can't just say *magic* whenever something doesn't make sense.Puja wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:24 am73 yards was also extraordinarily average - I hate stories where literally everything is undone at the end and not a single person remembers. What was the point of me watching if none of it mattered or even happened and there has been no effect on anyone whatsoever? The annoying thing is that there was almost a good episode in there and that's been the same with all of the first four - there's good ideas without ever coming together into a good episode.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 5:48 pmThird episode - Boom. There was some reason to think this might be good - it's the first story written by Steven Moffat since 2017. Unfortunately, there's no sign that he spent much of the last 7 years thinking of this one. It has to be his worst. There's an okay idea in there and some nice lines, but everything else, almost everything that actually happens in the story is simply stupid. And this narcissistic new Doctor is starting to irritate. Despite this it's probably the best episode so far, or should I say, the least bad.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 10:13 am New season of Doctor Who. It's really not good. Space Babies is about as good as the title suggests, and seemed to be aimed at 8 year olds. It really isn't worth analysing. The Devil's Chord was better but was just a story about magic - anything could happen - and in the end seemed to be about who could ham it up the most. And the Doctor and Ruby - I'm not blaming the actors here but, Jesus if they could stop bigging themselves and each other up for a moment we might get a story.
However the latest one, Dot and Bubble, is excellent. Could eaily have been a clunky allegory with the subtlety of a brick through a window, but I thought it was very much back to the quality that we were expecting of RTD. I did enjoy the reveal at the end, which I did not pick up on the clues for at all.
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Yeah, 73 Yards really did feel like someone had a couple of really cool ideas and didn't get enough time workshopping to turn it into an actual cohesive story.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:14 pm73 Yards had a good atmosphere and some nice ideas (if not exactly original), but was ruined by the end which didn't even attempt to explain anything in the story. And it was not just ambiguous - it didn't make sense - there was no explanation which would have tied it all together. Although some have said that was deliberate I think it's more likely that RTD didn't have a great explanation either, so simply left it that way. I get that it was a *magic* story but you can't just say *magic* whenever something doesn't make sense.Puja wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:24 am73 yards was also extraordinarily average - I hate stories where literally everything is undone at the end and not a single person remembers. What was the point of me watching if none of it mattered or even happened and there has been no effect on anyone whatsoever? The annoying thing is that there was almost a good episode in there and that's been the same with all of the first four - there's good ideas without ever coming together into a good episode.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 5:48 pm
Third episode - Boom. There was some reason to think this might be good - it's the first story written by Steven Moffat since 2017. Unfortunately, there's no sign that he spent much of the last 7 years thinking of this one. It has to be his worst. There's an okay idea in there and some nice lines, but everything else, almost everything that actually happens in the story is simply stupid. And this narcissistic new Doctor is starting to irritate. Despite this it's probably the best episode so far, or should I say, the least bad.
However the latest one, Dot and Bubble, is excellent. Could eaily have been a clunky allegory with the subtlety of a brick through a window, but I thought it was very much back to the quality that we were expecting of RTD. I did enjoy the reveal at the end, which I did not pick up on the clues for at all.
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Agreed, Dot and Bubble is the best so far, in fact is the only good episode so far. I wouldn't go as far as calling it excellent but it was good.
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Yeah, 73 yards could have done with a script editor. Being written by the producer means quality control may be lacking. RTD has perhaps taken on too much, writing 6 of 8 episodes.Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:11 pmYeah, 73 Yards really did feel like someone had a couple of really cool ideas and didn't get enough time workshopping to turn it into an actual cohesive story.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:14 pm73 Yards had a good atmosphere and some nice ideas (if not exactly original), but was ruined by the end which didn't even attempt to explain anything in the story. And it was not just ambiguous - it didn't make sense - there was no explanation which would have tied it all together. Although some have said that was deliberate I think it's more likely that RTD didn't have a great explanation either, so simply left it that way. I get that it was a *magic* story but you can't just say *magic* whenever something doesn't make sense.Puja wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:24 am
73 yards was also extraordinarily average - I hate stories where literally everything is undone at the end and not a single person remembers. What was the point of me watching if none of it mattered or even happened and there has been no effect on anyone whatsoever? The annoying thing is that there was almost a good episode in there and that's been the same with all of the first four - there's good ideas without ever coming together into a good episode.
However the latest one, Dot and Bubble, is excellent. Could eaily have been a clunky allegory with the subtlety of a brick through a window, but I thought it was very much back to the quality that we were expecting of RTD. I did enjoy the reveal at the end, which I did not pick up on the clues for at all.
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Agreed, Dot and Bubble is the best so far, in fact is the only good episode so far. I wouldn't go as far as calling it excellent but it was good.
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The latest episode, Rogue, was not great. It seemed to be one third 'ooh, it's like Bridgerton', one third fan fiction of what would happen if the Doctor pulled Jack Harkness, and one third dismal, unoriginal, shape-changing alien threat.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:31 pmYeah, 73 yards could have done with a script editor. Being written by the producer means quality control may be lacking. RTD has perhaps taken on too much, writing 6 of 8 episodes.Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:11 pmYeah, 73 Yards really did feel like someone had a couple of really cool ideas and didn't get enough time workshopping to turn it into an actual cohesive story.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:14 pm
73 Yards had a good atmosphere and some nice ideas (if not exactly original), but was ruined by the end which didn't even attempt to explain anything in the story. And it was not just ambiguous - it didn't make sense - there was no explanation which would have tied it all together. Although some have said that was deliberate I think it's more likely that RTD didn't have a great explanation either, so simply left it that way. I get that it was a *magic* story but you can't just say *magic* whenever something doesn't make sense.
Agreed, Dot and Bubble is the best so far, in fact is the only good episode so far. I wouldn't go as far as calling it excellent but it was good.
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The final two-parter was really poor. You can't judge these things without seeing both parts. The first part gave us a massive build-up to the reveal of a long, long, long-dead enemy from a classic story and completely upgraded him from an alien into a god of death. And the second part just doesn't make sense in so many ways - a real fail for the story as a whole. I guess if you're emotionally invested in these characters there might be something enjoyable but it might as well just be the story of someone trying to find the identity of their birth mother . . . why bother with all the sci-fi/fantasy if it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense?Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:08 pmThe latest episode, Rogue, was not great. It seemed to be one third 'ooh, it's like Bridgerton', one third fan fiction of what would happen if the Doctor pulled Jack Harkness, and one third dismal, unoriginal, shape-changing alien threat.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:31 pmYeah, 73 yards could have done with a script editor. Being written by the producer means quality control may be lacking. RTD has perhaps taken on too much, writing 6 of 8 episodes.
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Production values were very good, acting good, but that's about it.
Jeezus. The Doctor's main goal for the first 20 minutes is how to get off with the charming man he finds, before beginning to think about taking some urgent action to save lives (too late for some). I get that each Doctor has his or her or their own personality but they are broadly the same person. This doesn't seem right.
The whole series is pretty grim!! Enjoyable (??) but dark. No easy answers.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:08 am Watching baby reindeer on Netflix
Episode 4 is very grim
Almost a comedy but not quite, it's pretty good fun. Silo did the serious version, Fallout took the nuclear bunker society thing the other way. Both work on their own terms.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:15 am I watched an episode of Fallout too. I’m completely baffled. I guess marketing really is effective.