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Seymour starting and Laidlaw's on the bench v Highlanders. I still think Seymour has a chance but maybe I'm being naive

Cameo wrote:Seymour starting and Laidlaw's on the bench v Highlanders. I still think Seymour has a chance but maybe I'm being naive

For me he's probably been our best wing so far. Though if he's starting I'll be surprised if he makes the test team. Few who start that game will double up for the Maori who should be the test side. The team has all the hallmarks of the dirt trackers.

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

Cameo wrote:Seymour starting and Laidlaw's on the bench v Highlanders. I still think Seymour has a chance but maybe I'm being naive

For me he's probably been our best wing so far. Though if he's starting I'll be surprised if he makes the test team. Few who start that game will double up for the Maori who should be the test side. The team has all the hallmarks of the dirt trackers.

Yeah, although wing is probs one position where it is not too much of a problem to double up

Hogg ruled out for the rest of the tour.

SerjeantWildgoose wrote:Hogg ruled out for the rest of the tour.

So that will be 20 years since a Scot started a Lions Test. Maybe.

ARM wrote:

SerjeantWildgoose wrote:Hogg ruled out for the rest of the tour.

So that will be 20 years since a Scot started a Lions Test. Maybe.

yep, Seymore might have a chance in test 3 if North, Williams 1/2P are all injured and Stef Evans, Iuene Evans and Shane Willams dont pass late fitness tests

ARM wrote:

SerjeantWildgoose wrote:Hogg ruled out for the rest of the tour.

So that will be 20 years since a Scot started a Lions Test. Maybe.

And some Scots still support this nonsense

Brilliant result for the Highlanders. Dan Cole a complete liability at scrum time - most of us knew that after Gordy Reid twisted him like a corkscrew every scrum back in Jan & October.

Too many of these boys are out of their depth.

This is quite funny. Hopefully, Hoggy gets a rest now and isn't rushed back before he's completed a decent pre-season.

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Brilliant result for the Highlanders. Dan Cole a complete liability at scrum time - most of us knew that after Gordy Reid twisted him like a corkscrew every scrum back in Jan & October.

Too many of these boys are out of their depth.

Yep, think you have nailed it, far too many people picked on media hyped reputation without actually backing it up

But i also think the coaching isnt up to much, Howley Rowntree and farrell have all failed on the big stage before and clearly are not great selectors

How did Seymour play?

Only positive about Hoggs injury is it's not a Simon Taylor type injury.

whatisthejava wrote:

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Brilliant result for the Highlanders. Dan Cole a complete liability at scrum time - most of us knew that after Gordy Reid twisted him like a corkscrew every scrum back in Jan & October.

Too many of these boys are out of their depth.

Yep, think you have nailed it, far too many people picked on media hyped reputation without actually backing it up

But i also think the coaching isnt up to much, Howley Rowntree and farrell have all failed on the big stage before and clearly are not great selectors

I completely agree re coaches. There are some great talents in the UK - Rob Baxter, Eddie Jones, Gregor Townsend, Dai Young, Joe Schmidt, etc.

Gatland and his crew are sub-par coaches and even worse selectors - the fact that he despises Scots makes these results all the more satisfying.

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

whatisthejava wrote:

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Brilliant result for the Highlanders. Dan Cole a complete liability at scrum time - most of us knew that after Gordy Reid twisted him like a corkscrew every scrum back in Jan & October.

Too many of these boys are out of their depth.

Yep, think you have nailed it, far too many people picked on media hyped reputation without actually backing it up

But i also think the coaching isnt up to much, Howley Rowntree and farrell have all failed on the big stage before and clearly are not great selectors

I completely agree re coaches. There are some great talents in the UK - Rob Baxter, Eddie Jones, Gregor Townsend, Dai Young, Joe Schmidt, etc.

Gatland and his crew are sub-par coaches and even worse selectors - the fact that he despises Scots makes these results all the more satisfying.

I think there also has to be a question on what legacy is Gatland leaving in coaches for the next tour ,

he picked an attack coach that cant defend
a scrum coach who got dropped from england
a defence coach with question marks over his selections

So listening to the talk sport guys pick there Lionsteam

this is it

1 - Mako
2 - Owens
3 - Tad
4 Maro
5 - AWJ
6 - POM
7 - Warberton (unless he doesnt feel up to it )
8 - falatau

9 murray
10 farrel
11 williams
12 teo
13 ? Because JD is injured
14 North
15 Watson

Which makes me question if pundits actually believe that this is the best currently uninjured players available or are hey just trying to pick the team they think Gatland will so they can show how clever they are.

For me anyone who thinks North is a decent winger has slept through the last 18 months of rugby, the guy just looks completly lost whenever anyone with pace or guile runs at him, he was good when he came on the scene but since his concusions and the fact the game has moved on from larger wingers i think he looks very limited

Big D wrote:How did Seymour play?

If you look in the other thread there are some responses. Largely not great ones.

Hard to know if that's a truly bad performance or the kind of performance that North/Watson regularly put in in defence that gets dismissed as an aberration... over and over.

Mikey Brown wrote:

Big D wrote:How did Seymour play?

If you look in the other thread there are some responses. Largely not great ones.

Hard to know if that's a truly bad performance or the kind of performance that North/Watson regularly put in in defence that gets dismissed as an aberration... over and over.

I thought he did ok. But he's playing on the wing for the Lions and that, along with fullback, is becoming a cursed position because it is becoming clear that they are irrelevant in the attacking structure.

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

ARM wrote:

SerjeantWildgoose wrote:Hogg ruled out for the rest of the tour.

So that will be 20 years since a Scot started a Lions Test. Maybe.

And some Scots still support this nonsense

Fuck me you are a dull cunt sometimes. You've got to be boring even yourself at this point.

Edinburgh in Exile wrote:

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

ARM wrote:
So that will be 20 years since a Scot started a Lions Test. Maybe.

And some Scots still support this nonsense

Fuck me you are a dull cunt sometimes. You've got to be boring even yourself at this point.

I blame the SNP and braveheart. Jocks were never this chippy before.

OptimisticJock wrote:I blame the SNP and braveheart. Jocks were never this chippy before.

Word.

Matt Ha wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:

Big D wrote:How did Seymour play?

If you look in the other thread there are some responses. Largely not great ones.

Hard to know if that's a truly bad performance or the kind of performance that North/Watson regularly put in in defence that gets dismissed as an aberration... over and over.

I thought he did ok. But he's playing on the wing for the Lions and that, along with fullback, is becoming a cursed position because it is becoming clear that they are irrelevant in the attacking structure.

Just getting through it now, he had a bit of a ropey start in defence, but covered back very well on both occasions, also dropped a cross field kick in the first half that you'd expect him to get. Made a fucking great call to go early and attack a highlanders cross field kick to run in his try at the beginning of the second. Miss that and it's 7 points the other way.

To be honest, if you want to know how individuals play on the Lions, the only way to do it is watch the game yourself, the melodrama on the lions freds is laughable.

Shame to see Laws get sparked. Hope it's not as bad as it looks, he's been good.

Ah mate. You're only allowed to admit your players are good, everyone else is shite.

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

ARM wrote:

SerjeantWildgoose wrote:Hogg ruled out for the rest of the tour.

So that will be 20 years since a Scot started a Lions Test. Maybe.

And some Scots still support this nonsense [emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38]

And some Scots are still hysterically petty little children [emoji122] [emoji106] [emoji23]

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