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How long till the Ioane boys move to Canetrbury?
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All 3 'sacked!' - for the time being, anyway
There was another major development in the Ashwin Willemse-Nick Mallett-Naas Botha saga on Friday as SuperSport confirmed that none of the trio would be on air on Saturday.
The conflict, which saw Willemse walk off the live set during last Saturday's broadcast, has not been resolved, SuperSport said.
Willemse had accused Mallett and Botha of patronising him, adding he could not "work with people that undermine other people".
The three parties had met on Monday this week, but could not get to the bottom of their issues.
"We have had discussions this week with all parties in an effort to resolve this matter amicably and expeditiously," SuperSport said in a statement.
The matter, SuperSport added, would now be placed in the hands of an independent mediator.
"Despite good progress initially, the matter has unfortunately not been resolved. We have therefore decided to instruct an independent Senior Counsel, Advocate Vincent Maleka SC, to chair a review of the incident which occurred and to make recommendations to our management.
"Pending the outcome of the review, the three presenters involved will not appear on-air. None of the presenters have been suspended and they will continue to be remunerated in terms of their contracts.
"We are committed to getting to the bottom of this serious issue. Advocate Maleka SC has been asked to make findings and recommendations by Monday, June 11, 2018."
https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRu ... r-20180525
There was another major development in the Ashwin Willemse-Nick Mallett-Naas Botha saga on Friday as SuperSport confirmed that none of the trio would be on air on Saturday.
The conflict, which saw Willemse walk off the live set during last Saturday's broadcast, has not been resolved, SuperSport said.
Willemse had accused Mallett and Botha of patronising him, adding he could not "work with people that undermine other people".
The three parties had met on Monday this week, but could not get to the bottom of their issues.
"We have had discussions this week with all parties in an effort to resolve this matter amicably and expeditiously," SuperSport said in a statement.
The matter, SuperSport added, would now be placed in the hands of an independent mediator.
"Despite good progress initially, the matter has unfortunately not been resolved. We have therefore decided to instruct an independent Senior Counsel, Advocate Vincent Maleka SC, to chair a review of the incident which occurred and to make recommendations to our management.
"Pending the outcome of the review, the three presenters involved will not appear on-air. None of the presenters have been suspended and they will continue to be remunerated in terms of their contracts.
"We are committed to getting to the bottom of this serious issue. Advocate Maleka SC has been asked to make findings and recommendations by Monday, June 11, 2018."
https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRu ... r-20180525
If they're good enough to play at World Cups, why not in between?
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Crusaders 50 points, Hurricanes 45.
Remaining schedules:
Crusaders: @ Chiefs, bye, Otago, Blues
Hurricanes: Otago, @ ACT, Blues, @ Chiefs
Almost identical schedules - except the Canes need to go to Canberra & take maximum points. On form you'd expect them to do that, today's loss notwithstanding. But I suspected the Saders will edge them by a bonus point or two and if Canterbury has the home run all the way through the playoffs, title number 9 is on the line. Canes just don't look like championship-winning material this year, esp. if they end up having to go back to Christchurch for the final.
Remaining schedules:
Crusaders: @ Chiefs, bye, Otago, Blues
Hurricanes: Otago, @ ACT, Blues, @ Chiefs
Almost identical schedules - except the Canes need to go to Canberra & take maximum points. On form you'd expect them to do that, today's loss notwithstanding. But I suspected the Saders will edge them by a bonus point or two and if Canterbury has the home run all the way through the playoffs, title number 9 is on the line. Canes just don't look like championship-winning material this year, esp. if they end up having to go back to Christchurch for the final.
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Keep your dirty poaching mitts off you southern son of a sea serpent.morepork wrote:How long till the Ioane boys move to Canetrbury?
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J Dory wrote:Keep your dirty poaching mitts off you southern son of a sea serpent.morepork wrote:How long till the Ioane boys move to Canetrbury?
You should put this under the picture of your bully. She has the perfeck expression for it.
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Jags open the scoring in BA and lead the sharks 3-0 midway through the first half. This is undoubtedly the second most important tie of the weekend and may well determine the 8th Q-final spot behind the 4 Kiwi teams, the other 2 conference winners and (probably) the Rebels. Jags are a point up on the Sharks in 8th place and a win here would really put them in a good position with three rounds remaining.
Trivia: Jags are currently the only non-Kiwi/non-conference leader in the comp with a winning record.
Moyano with the opening try. 10-0. Vamos Jags!
& he's in again. 2 for the left winger. 17-0. Jags are for real this year, folks!
Lock Ruan Botha scores right on HT for the visitors and keeps their hopes alive. HT 17-7 Jags.
Ramiro Moyano
Sharks strike first in the 2nd half and its 17-10 with half an hour remaining. Game on!
Trivia: Jags are currently the only non-Kiwi/non-conference leader in the comp with a winning record.
Moyano with the opening try. 10-0. Vamos Jags!
& he's in again. 2 for the left winger. 17-0. Jags are for real this year, folks!
Lock Ruan Botha scores right on HT for the visitors and keeps their hopes alive. HT 17-7 Jags.
Ramiro Moyano
Sharks strike first in the 2nd half and its 17-10 with half an hour remaining. Game on!
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Don't be silly, the officiating will make sure that doesn't happen. We've already seen Glen Jackson absolutely desperate to not penalise Owen Franks for blatantly decking James Parsons in the head in the ruck.J Dory wrote:Blues should win their next four games with a bonus point allowing them to sneak into the playoffs. We're in the backseat drivers seat, all the way to the title.
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Sharks are right back in this now. 2 penalties early in the 2nd half makes it 17 - 13 Jags . . .
Home-team is unquestionably dominant but bungling its chances and giving away penalties. Approaching the final 1/4 now.
Finally - lock Pagadizaval gets the Argies' 3rd. No conversion. 22-13.
Nope. Took a while but the TMO overruled it. Back to 17-13.
Record crowd of 20K
Jags in again. Provided it stands, that should seal it.
Right wing this time - Delguy. 24 - 13
5 mins to play & Sharks down to 14 with Both sent off for a dangerous tackle.
Bonus point try for the home-team. Moyano's hat-trick & that could be crucial in the race to the playoffs.
FT 29 13
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Home-team is unquestionably dominant but bungling its chances and giving away penalties. Approaching the final 1/4 now.
Finally - lock Pagadizaval gets the Argies' 3rd. No conversion. 22-13.
Nope. Took a while but the TMO overruled it. Back to 17-13.
Record crowd of 20K
Jags in again. Provided it stands, that should seal it.
Right wing this time - Delguy. 24 - 13
5 mins to play & Sharks down to 14 with Both sent off for a dangerous tackle.
Bonus point try for the home-team. Moyano's hat-trick & that could be crucial in the race to the playoffs.
FT 29 13
Delguy
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At least my 2nd favorite team won this week - and the playoffs are now firmly within their grasp. The Jags have received a bit of flak since joining the comp but I'm not sure why. They've shown steady improvement, finishing 13th (out of 18) in their debut season, and 10th last year - which is a lot better than the Sunpoodles, for instance - and now they're a good chance to make the playoffs in just their 3rd season. I'd call that a real success story!
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So looking at the Jags schedule they have a bye next week then intra-conference ties against the Stormers at home, @ the Bulls & @ the Sharks. They will want to take maximum points in the former, because that two-game tour could prove tricky, esp. if the Bulls & Sharks are still in it. But let's also remember the Argies completed a remarkable tour of Australasia earlier in the season, winning all 4 games - most notably against the Chiefs in Hamilton. Therefore you'd back them to win at least 2 of their remaining 3 games, which should see them reach the playoffs for the first time. & they're also within striking distance of the Lions, just 2 points behind the conference leaders...
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She's getting on, but still a handful.morepork wrote:J Dory wrote:Keep your dirty poaching mitts off you southern son of a sea serpent.morepork wrote:How long till the Ioane boys move to Canetrbury?
You should put this under the picture of your bully. She has the perfeck expression for it.
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Appologies for any epilepsy triggered, I'm new to this gif creation shit.
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Tahs ended the Aussies' drought against Kiwi teams last week and are on the way to making it 2 in a row with an early 14 - 0 at the Chiefs. Are they the real deal? Or are the Chiefs and Landers just a bit shoddy this year? Oh, Chiefs just pulled one back. 14-7 midway 1st half.
Chiefs lead 19-14 at HT. Great fight back after the early 0-14 deficit.
24-24 headed into the final 1/4. Sounds like a great game, but I'm watching Hong Kong thrash Malaysia right now (see global results thread for live feed).
Chiefs lead 19-14 at HT. Great fight back after the early 0-14 deficit.
24-24 headed into the final 1/4. Sounds like a great game, but I'm watching Hong Kong thrash Malaysia right now (see global results thread for live feed).
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Chiefs Mana! Great game.
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Yes, Chiefs and Otago get home against the Aussies, meaning its still only one win for the Aussies against the Kiwis in the last 43 encounters. They seem to be getting closer but. The Chiefs might just make an impression in the playoffs, tho I don't see the Landers going very far this year...
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Sounds like a humdinger in Pretoria, but the Bulls have just scored what might be a clincher as the Brumbies collect a red card. 28-24 with 10 to go.
But, no, it's the 14-man Brumbies, currently 2nd bottom on the table, who strike back to lead 28-38 in the final minutes
& that's the FT score
Meanwhile, couldn't bring you the Canes' highlights this week due to technical difficulties (not sure they have internet in the South Island yet), but here's the Jags - on 6 in a row, and this following their remarkable unbeaten tour of Australia & NZ. They look set for the playoffs and might cause some problems there too. 20K in the stadium
But, no, it's the 14-man Brumbies, currently 2nd bottom on the table, who strike back to lead 28-38 in the final minutes
& that's the FT score
Meanwhile, couldn't bring you the Canes' highlights this week due to technical difficulties (not sure they have internet in the South Island yet), but here's the Jags - on 6 in a row, and this following their remarkable unbeaten tour of Australia & NZ. They look set for the playoffs and might cause some problems there too. 20K in the stadium
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Lions edge Stormers in Cape Town. Red card for the hosts undoubtedly helped their cause. Result leaves them 6 clear of the Jags, although the South Americans have a game in hand.
1. Crusaders 13 11 0 2 409:236 50
2. Lions 14 8 0 6 457:392 40
3. Waratahs 12 6 1 5 366:313 31
4. Hurricanes 12 10 0 2 382:237 45
5. Chiefs 12 8 0 4 346:269 37
6. Highlanders 12 8 0 4 320:304 36
7. Jaguares 13 8 0 5 340:341 34
8. Rebels 12 6 0 6 334:340 30
9. Sharks 13 5 1 7 370:381 28
10. Stormers 14 5 0 9 349:382 25
11. Bulls 13 5 0 8 349:388 24
12. Brumbies 12 4 0 8 269:324 20
13. Reds 12 4 0 8 247:360 19
14. Blues 12 3 0 9 288:377 17
15. Sunwolves 12 2 0 10 279:461 10
1. Crusaders 13 11 0 2 409:236 50
2. Lions 14 8 0 6 457:392 40
3. Waratahs 12 6 1 5 366:313 31
4. Hurricanes 12 10 0 2 382:237 45
5. Chiefs 12 8 0 4 346:269 37
6. Highlanders 12 8 0 4 320:304 36
7. Jaguares 13 8 0 5 340:341 34
8. Rebels 12 6 0 6 334:340 30
9. Sharks 13 5 1 7 370:381 28
10. Stormers 14 5 0 9 349:382 25
11. Bulls 13 5 0 8 349:388 24
12. Brumbies 12 4 0 8 269:324 20
13. Reds 12 4 0 8 247:360 19
14. Blues 12 3 0 9 288:377 17
15. Sunwolves 12 2 0 10 279:461 10
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It's going to be tough for the Chiefs and Otago to maintain 5th & 6th places as both have to face the competition's runaway leaders, the Crusaders and Hurricanes, in the last few rounds. So the Jags might very well supplant one or both of them if they maintain current form. That could land the South Americans with a tough Q/final away to either the Canes or Saders, however (whichever doesn't top the table). The Chiefs and Otago would then wind up with NSW and the Lions, which could theoretically lead to an all-NZ semis. The race for the 8th Q/final spot is currently led by the Rebels, who have a game in hand over the Sharks and two games in hand over the Stormers. The 8th Q/finalist will land either the Saders or Canes (away) in the playoffs.
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Don't forget that the Chiefs and Highlanders have a game in hand over the Crusaders
The top 8 finish as follows:
CRU (50): Chi, Hig, Blu
LIO (40): Sha, Bul
WAR (31): Red, Reb, Sun, Bru
HUR (45): Hig, Bru, Blu, Chi
CHI (37): Cru, Hig, Bru, Hur
HIG (36): Hur, Chi, Cru, Rebs
JAG (34): Sto, Bul, Sha
REB (30): Blu, War, Red, Hig
No side is out of the competition in theory. A clean sheet with some big, big margins and with bonus points could technically see the Sunwolves go ahead of the Reds on points difference.
The top 8 finish as follows:
CRU (50): Chi, Hig, Blu
LIO (40): Sha, Bul
WAR (31): Red, Reb, Sun, Bru
HUR (45): Hig, Bru, Blu, Chi
CHI (37): Cru, Hig, Bru, Hur
HIG (36): Hur, Chi, Cru, Rebs
JAG (34): Sto, Bul, Sha
REB (30): Blu, War, Red, Hig
No side is out of the competition in theory. A clean sheet with some big, big margins and with bonus points could technically see the Sunwolves go ahead of the Reds on points difference.
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I hadn't looked at the Rebels schedule, but that's a fairly light run in, even for an Aussie side. They should win a couple of those and edge the Sharks out for a playoff spot, especially as the Durban outfit has a couple of tough derbies coming up.
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So the Saffas take a break this week with the Boks meeting Wales in DC. Canes will need to rebound mentally from last week's lost with a win in Otago to stay theoretically level with the Saders, who have a tough outing themselves, facing the Chiefs in Hamilton. Both of the frontrunners ought to win, but certainly nothing should be taken for granted, and a slip up by either could really prove costly in the race for top spot. Meanwhile, the Rebels will need a win in Auckland to stay in contention for the playoffs, NSW should overcome their old rivals in Brisbane to maintain their lead in the Aussie conference, and ACT ought to deal with the hapless Sunwolves in Canberra but look to be out of the playoffs picture regardless.
& following that there's a break of a few weeks for the summer tours . . .
& following that there's a break of a few weeks for the summer tours . . .
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Wheels just came off the Canes. That's it for this season. They'll make the playoffs but are not championship-winning material, regrettably.
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Indeed. They should never have been the last of the Kiwi teams to win the trophy, and now they don't look too interested in winning it again. In saying that, they're clearly second on the table and still good for a home quarter. Nothing too sucky about that. It's just that the last couple of games have shown up their weaknesses - most notably lack of leadership and inability to break down a solid defense.J Dory wrote:Must suck to be a Canes fan.
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