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Re: RE: Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:31 am
by Donny osmond
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Donny osmond wrote:The lions twitter account has announced the four welsh lads, at least one of whom I've never even heard of.
Cant make up my mind about this. Lions tours arent supposed to do this and I absolutely hate it on one level... but then the lions tours from yesteryear that made the brand what it is, well they took place yesteryear when rugby was a very different game.
Maybe the lions concept really is dead?
This is causing me some angst, I cant straighten out my thoughts.
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I'm sure the decision to call up lots of welshmen is entirely unrelated to the large payments the WRU get for every welshman selected. We will see it for the unmitigated success that it is bound to be. There's no chance that any non-Welsh player not selected for the starting 15 might see the whole enterprise as jobs for the boys.
Calling up Welshmen does have one benefit I suppose. They are a little less likely to go "off tour" because they could jeopardise their Welsh rugby futures as long as Gatland remains coach.
As for the Lions concept being dead, I dont think players or fans will accept players being selected other than on merit. If they don't then the merchandise won't sell and the tickets won't sell and the thing will die a death.
The thing about being selected on merit is what rankles the most. While we could all argue the toss about the original party selections, some if these fly-ins are absolutely not there on merit, and that just cheapens the jersey. I'm hugely pissed off about that, and not because I think Scots players should be there instead.
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Re: RE: Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:18 am
by wanderingjock
Donny osmond wrote:Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Donny osmond wrote:The lions twitter account has announced the four welsh lads, at least one of whom I've never even heard of.
Cant make up my mind about this. Lions tours arent supposed to do this and I absolutely hate it on one level... but then the lions tours from yesteryear that made the brand what it is, well they took place yesteryear when rugby was a very different game.
Maybe the lions concept really is dead?
This is causing me some angst, I cant straighten out my thoughts.
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I'm sure the decision to call up lots of welshmen is entirely unrelated to the large payments the WRU get for every welshman selected. We will see it for the unmitigated success that it is bound to be. There's no chance that any non-Welsh player not selected for the starting 15 might see the whole enterprise as jobs for the boys.
Calling up Welshmen does have one benefit I suppose. They are a little less likely to go "off tour" because they could jeopardise their Welsh rugby futures as long as Gatland remains coach.
As for the Lions concept being dead, I dont think players or fans will accept players being selected other than on merit. If they don't then the merchandise won't sell and the tickets won't sell and the thing will die a death.
The thing about being selected on merit is what rankles the most. While we could all argue the toss about the original party selections, some if these fly-ins are absolutely not there on merit, and that just cheapens the jersey. I'm hugely pissed off about that, and not because I think Scots players should be there instead.
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Did anyone listen to this,mcgeechan talks about picking on merit near the end
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05481s3
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Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:30 am
by wanderingjock
OptimisticJock wrote:Anyone know if Edinburgh Airport has sky sports in a bar?
Have you been called up to the squad by gatland?
My goodness, that does cheapen the Jersey!!
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:39 am
by ARM
The MAB have outdone themselves there.
Hakatastic.
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:41 am
by Edinburgh in Exile
ARM wrote:The MAB have outdone themselves there.
Hakatastic.
Was about to say that.
Not a bad start for the lions so far.
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:45 am
by wanderingjock
Did anyone have a stream?
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:46 am
by Adder
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:52 am
by wanderingjock
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:54 am
by Adder
You don't have to register but try this one:
http://cdn11.crichd.be/sky-sports-1-live-streaming
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Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:57 am
by Big D
Lions call up in a contract year is handy for Finn.
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:10 am
by wanderingjock
Cheers Ads, I couldn't work it, I'm just listening on radio. Old school
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:27 am
by Which Tyler
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:38 am
by bruce
how do you get rid of all the crap in front of the action?
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:39 am
by Which Tyler
my adblocker handles most of it (Ublock); which just leaves a couple of Xs in boxes to close the relevant pop-ups
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:29 am
by Edinburgh in Exile
Job done, pretty emphatic. Pissing with rain, forwards win. Suited that team set up down to the ground. Doesn't matter who you have behind he srcum if you can't get the ball.
Re: RE: Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:48 am
by Donny osmond
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:Job done, pretty emphatic. Pissing with rain, forwards win. Suited that team set up down to the ground. Doesn't matter who you have behind he srcum if you can't get the ball.
AIBs will be shitting* themselves for the next week
*definition to follow
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Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:09 am
by switchskier
It's kind of like watching Scotland from a few years ago. The forwards are competitive, there's a lot of hard work and a dead eyed goal kicker but all the explosive threat of am ageing Audley Harrison and we're all praying for heavy rain.
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:52 am
by Soapy
The pack was better today but was playing against the 2nd least cohesive pack they will face all tour. I reckon Hansen will happily let the Lions think they can dominate dominate the set piece but be confident that the Lions won't get a decisive edge in the tests. I've watched M Vinupola a lot this season and think he is much less effective in the scrum than the media makes out. He gets bigged up for his work round the pitch but IMO he will be targeted in the set and there is a good chance his scrummaging will be found wanting. If we don't get the upper hand in the scrum I really can't see there is the skill or game plan for a Lions win.
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:03 pm
by kk67
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:Job done, pretty emphatic. Pissing with rain, forwards win. Suited that team set up down to the ground. Doesn't matter who you have behind he srcum if you can't get the ball.
Yup.
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:44 pm
by switchskier
Managed to finish watching the game. 19 points ahead with ten minutes left and they choose to kick three? That's a team that is scared of what the opposition can do.
Re: RE: Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:42 pm
by Donny osmond
switchskier wrote:Managed to finish watching the game. 19 points ahead with ten minutes left and they choose to kick three? That's a team that is scared of what the opposition can do.
Or a team confident they don't need to worry... I remember Johnson's England doing that sort of thing too, not because they were scared but because they were just of the opinion that they've won, they're in control, what's the point in busting a lung for a try when you don't need to?
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Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:54 pm
by ALunpg
Feel very embarrassed about the Welsh players selected to go..and why Johnny Gray is not the chosen second row messes with ma heed .. he could have ended up on the subs bench by the 2nd test.
Good that Russell gets a shout ... he will get a chance to show why he should have been selected first up ...the positive us that he knows Laidlaw for better or worse
Re: RE: Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:21 pm
by switchskier
Donny osmond wrote:switchskier wrote:Managed to finish watching the game. 19 points ahead with ten minutes left and they choose to kick three? That's a team that is scared of what the opposition can do.
Or a team confident they don't need to worry... I remember Johnson's England doing that sort of thing too, not because they were scared but because they were just of the opinion that they've won, they're in control, what's the point in busting a lung for a try when you don't need to?
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I saw it as wanting to be more than three scores ahead, because the AB's can score three quick tries.
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:29 pm
by OptimisticJock
wanderingjock wrote:OptimisticJock wrote:Anyone know if Edinburgh Airport has sky sports in a bar?
Have you been called up to the squad by gatland?
My goodness, that does cheapen the Jersey!!
Good result. Thought they'd get pumped.
Re: Lions
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:43 pm
by hp18
Where were you off to? Spill it.