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Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 1:43 pm
by Sandydragon
I'd completely forgotten this was taking place. This Friday. Not sure about TV coverage (also not sure what we will learn from this other than its a warm up opportunity for an unsettled squad).
Welsh team is (Ive used normal team numbers but the media are using squad numbers - I think there will be a fist full of replacements in this game)
15. Anscombe
14. Gilles
13. Tyler Morgan
12. Jamie Roberts
11. Cory Allen
10. Sam Davies
9.. Aled Davies
1. Nicky Smith
2. Kristian Dacey
3. Tomos Francis
4. Adam Beard
5. Cory Hill
6. Seb Davies
7. E Jenkins
8. O Griffiths
Replacements from:
Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues 2), Wyn Jones (Scarlets 3), Rhodri Jones (Ospreys 5), Gareth Thomas (Ospreys 33), Scott Baldwin (Ospreys 7), Ryan Elias (Scarlets 8), Scott Otten (Ospreys 9), Rory Thornton (Ospreys 12), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues 13), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets 15), Thomas Young (Wasps 18), Gareth Davies (Scarlets 19), Tomos Williams (Cardiff Blues 20), Owen Williams (Leicester Tigers 23), Scott Williams (Scarlets 26), Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues 28), Steffan Evans (Scarlets 30), Rhys Patchell (Scarlets 31)
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 2:04 pm
by PoolerSaint
It's live on s4c this Friday evening.
Good to have a run out I guess & blow some cobwebs off before the real action down under.
Some players on the bench who weren't named in the original squad such as Dillon Lewis & Scott Often.
Can't see the point in Cory Allen on the wing but decent enough team I guess considering the lions & injured players.
I'm old enough to remember Wales playing warm up games against Bridgend & Newbridge (I think it was) in the early 90's. Bridgend won I think.
It'll be a good day for RGC no doubt, sold out crowd of 5700. Great day for north Wales rugby.
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Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 3:34 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
James Davies, Cracknell and Habberfield must wonder what they've done wrong.
Aaaanyway... should be fun. Assuming Wales XV are allowed to play some rugby. I expect they plan to wear RGC down over the first 60 minutes and score a couple of tries at the end*.
*Hopefully this is a joke.
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 4:03 pm
by PoolerSaint
RGC have drafted in a few extra players so should make a game of it for a while at least.
Billy McBryde was one another was Sean Lonsdale ex RGC who signed for Exeter Chiefs last season.
Can't remember the others.
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Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 8:02 pm
by ALunpg
Son of Mathonwy wrote:James Davies, Cracknell and Habberfield must wonder what they've done wrong.
Aaaanyway... should be fun. Assuming Wales XV are allowed to play some rugby. I expect they plan to wear RGC down over the first 60 minutes and score a couple of tries at the end*.
*Hopefully this is a joke.
As to who is not in this squad I give up trying to work it out..as it is beyond me
Tictacs for FrIday
The Doc will run the ball up..
If that fails ...repeat the above
If that fails ...you get the picture
If we is losing.then Sam will pass to Giles behind his own line ..jinks his way to the opposition line and scores to save the blushes.
Our coaches ...whoever they are now...will mark it as a tactical success as we ground them down.
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:44 am
by Ross. S
Could you imagine if they lost to RGC

Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:49 am
by Sandydragon
Ross. S wrote:Could you imagine if they lost to RGC

Boom!!! Even a close win would be hugely embarrassing (no disrespect to RGC) but even a depleted national squad should be able to manage that game comfortably.
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:13 am
by PoolerSaint
The U20's should be able to win this comfortably.
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Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:28 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
PoolerSaint wrote:The U20's should be able to win this comfortably.
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Yeah. In fact a Wales XV vs Wales U20 would be more interesting.
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:12 pm
by Ross. S
Anyone else supporting RGC just for the lolz?
Afon Bagshaw sounds like a hobbit name.....
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:57 pm
by Buggaluggs
The Shire will be proud of the 19 points scored in the first half by the halflings.
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:00 pm
by Graigwen
I just got back from work to see the last 12 minutes.
Anything learned from this? Any stand out performances?
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Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:26 am
by PoolerSaint
Was impressed by young Seb Davies, ran some excellent lines & made good metres.
Cory Allen & Gareth Anscombe were a class apart from the rest. Always had time & space on the ball, made ground at will. Too many times the Welsh players were looking for contact.
Tyler Morgan showed flashes but seemed to be struggling at times.
Tom Hughes the RGC centre looked impressive, especially in defence. Sean Lonsdale at lock seems a good prospect too, big unit & mobile.
Don't think we can read anything into that performance though. It was a training session that was televised, the players will have got some rustinness out of their legs before the tour which is good.
And it was a great occasion for RGC & north Wales rugby as a whole. Good to see a packed out passionate crowd enjoying the game.
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Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:38 am
by Buggaluggs
PoolerSaint wrote:Was impressed by young Seb Davies, ran some excellent lines & made good metres.
Cory Allen & Gareth Anscombe were a class apart from the rest. Always had time & space on the ball, made ground at will. Too many times the Welsh players were looking for contact.
Tyler Morgan showed flashes but seemed to be struggling at times.
Tom Hughes the RGC centre looked impressive, especially in defence. Sean Lonsdale at lock seems a good prospect too, big unit & mobile.
Don't think we can read anything into that performance though. It was a training session that was televised, the players will have got some rustinness out of their legs before the tour which is good.
And it was a great occasion for RGC & north Wales rugby as a whole. Good to see a packed out passionate crowd enjoying the game.
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Good stuff. Especially that.
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:29 am
by Lord Llandaff
Nice to see a referee not being a total pedant too
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:32 am
by Sandydragon
Sadly my internet connection was pretty poor so saw very little. The point about looking for contact is hugely frustrating. We seem to want to play anti rugby. This coaching approach needs to change.
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:50 pm
by Numbers
Sandydragon wrote:Sadly my internet connection was pretty poor so saw very little. The point about looking for contact is hugely frustrating. We seem to want to play anti rugby. This coaching approach needs to change.
To be fair the Wales team should be able to outmuscle RGC quite easily, so looking for contact and then offloads would seem to make sense. Let's see what happens against the two PI sides, they will have trouble if they adopt the same tactics in that scenario.
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:17 pm
by Sandydragon
Numbers wrote:Sandydragon wrote:Sadly my internet connection was pretty poor so saw very little. The point about looking for contact is hugely frustrating. We seem to want to play anti rugby. This coaching approach needs to change.
To be fair the Wales team should be able to outmuscle RGC quite easily, so looking for contact and then offloads would seem to make sense. Let's see what happens against the two PI sides, they will have trouble if they adopt the same tactics in that scenario.
It's what we always do though. Look for contact. The offloads thing is more recent and will probably stop at the first risk of an interception.
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:34 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Sandydragon wrote:Numbers wrote:Sandydragon wrote:Sadly my internet connection was pretty poor so saw very little. The point about looking for contact is hugely frustrating. We seem to want to play anti rugby. This coaching approach needs to change.
To be fair the Wales team should be able to outmuscle RGC quite easily, so looking for contact and then offloads would seem to make sense. Let's see what happens against the two PI sides, they will have trouble if they adopt the same tactics in that scenario.
It's what we always do though. Look for contact. The offloads thing is more recent and will probably stop at the first risk of an interception.
We did throw a few interceptions, so I expect they'll want to tighten things up, play no risk rugby.
Unfortunately, from a development point of view, playing a loose game against the PI teams is probably playing into their hands so (sigh) it might make sense to play low risk rugby (if we want to win no matter what). And McBryde will definitely see that has the overriding priority (lest his coaching reputation fall even further).
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:58 am
by Numbers
Son of Mathonwy wrote:Sandydragon wrote:Numbers wrote:
To be fair the Wales team should be able to outmuscle RGC quite easily, so looking for contact and then offloads would seem to make sense. Let's see what happens against the two PI sides, they will have trouble if they adopt the same tactics in that scenario.
It's what we always do though. Look for contact. The offloads thing is more recent and will probably stop at the first risk of an interception.
We did throw a few interceptions, so I expect they'll want to tighten things up, play no risk rugby.
Unfortunately, from a development point of view, playing a loose game against the PI teams is probably playing into their hands so (sigh) it might make sense to play low risk rugby (if we want to win no matter what). And McBryde will definitely see that has the overriding priority (lest his coaching reputation fall even further).
I'm not sure fast and loose is the way to play against the PI's to be honest.
Re: Wavles XV vs RGC1404
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:26 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Numbers wrote:Son of Mathonwy wrote:Sandydragon wrote:
It's what we always do though. Look for contact. The offloads thing is more recent and will probably stop at the first risk of an interception.
We did throw a few interceptions, so I expect they'll want to tighten things up, play no risk rugby.
Unfortunately, from a development point of view, playing a loose game against the PI teams is probably playing into their hands so (sigh) it might make sense to play low risk rugby (if we want to win no matter what). And McBryde will definitely see that has the overriding priority (lest his coaching reputation fall even further).
I'm not sure fast and loose is the way to play against the PI's to be honest.
Yes, that's my point. I'd like us to develop a looser style, but the PIs are the worst place to experiment with that...
Given the "depth" of coaching talent on this tour it would probably make sense to keep it tight, even if that's a bit boring from our POV. And they're hardly going to send McBryde off with a remit to develop our style regardless of results.