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Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:20 am
by ALunpg
Unless I am wrong ..not a novelty...we have 3 looseheads and one tight head ?
Revamped Sqaud
Hookers
Scott Baldwin
Ryan Elias
Props
Rhodri Jones
Wyn Jones
Nicky Smith
Gareth Thomas
Dillon Lewis
Locks
Adam Beard
Seb Davies
Rory Thornton
Flankers
Ollie Griffiths
Ellis Jenkins
Josh Navidi
Aaron Shingler
Thomas Young
No 8
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Scrum Halves
Aled Davies
Tomos Williams
Fly Halves
Gareth Anscombe
Sam Davies
Rhys Patchell
Owen Williams
Centres
Cory Allen
Tyler Morgan
Jamie Roberts (c)
Scott Williams
Wing
Steffan Evans
Keelan Giles
FULL BACK
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Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:03 pm
by PoolerSaint
They have Cardiff Blues tighthead Dillon Lewis who won his 1st cap off the bench against Tonga.
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Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:23 pm
by ALunpg
PoolerSaint wrote:They have Cardiff Blues tighthead Dillon Lewis who won his 1st cap off the bench against Tonga.
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Thanks ...I have corrected it...as I said. ..not a novelty

Re: RE: Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:22 pm
by PoolerSaint
ALunpg wrote:PoolerSaint wrote:They have Cardiff Blues tighthead Dillon Lewis who won his 1st cap off the bench against Tonga.
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Thanks ...I have corrected it...as I said. ..not a novelty [emoji38] [emoji38]
Lol
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Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:35 pm
by ALunpg
Nicky Smith
Ryan Elias
Dillon Lewis
Rory Thornton
Seb Davies
Adam Shingler
Ellis Jenkins
Josh Navidi
Aled Davies
Sam Davies
Steffan Evans
Jamie Roberts
Scott Williams
Keelan Giles
Gareth Anscombe
Scott Baldwin
Rhodri Jones
Wyn Jones
Adam Beard
Ollie Griffiths
Tomos Williams
Rhys Patchell
Tyler Morgan
Sadly they will pick Cory Allan possibly to start... but he will show nothing new. Patchell deserves the nod to see how he has progressed this year andI hope that Morgan and Griffiths get a chance to step up.
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:06 pm
by ALunpg
0730 Friday on BBC 2 Wales
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:56 pm
by PoolerSaint
I'm off Friday, so at least I can watch this live.
Not expecting much though.
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Re: RE: Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:18 pm
by PoolerSaint
ALunpg wrote:Nicky Smith
Ryan Elias
Dillon Lewis
Rory Thornton
Seb Davies
Adam Shingler
Ellis Jenkins
Josh Navidi
Aled Davies
Sam Davies
Steffan Evans
Jamie Roberts
Scott Williams
Keelan Giles
Gareth Anscombe
Scott Baldwin
Rhodri Jones
Wyn Jones
Adam Beard
Ollie Griffiths
Tomos Williams
Rhys Patchell
Tyler Morgan
Sadly they will pick Cory Allan possibly to start... but he will show nothing new. Patchell deserves the nod to see how he has progressed this year andI hope that Morgan and Griffiths get a chance to step up.
You were pretty much spot on apart from Tyler Morgan & Cory Allen for Scott Williams & Keelan Giles.
Chuffed for Elias & Lewis in the front row both have massive potential.
Ellis Jenkins deserves a start, another top prospect.
We need both young locks to have the games of their lives.
It's going to be a long 80mins for this young side.
Biggest downside of the whole tour for me is Keelan Giles ommission.
Re: RE: Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:04 pm
by Sourdust
PoolerSaint wrote:ALunpg wrote:
Biggest downside of the whole tour for me is Keelan Giles ommission.
If he suddenly found a new grandparent, we could have no complaints.
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:41 pm
by ALunpg
This us another Shane Williams syndrome...lack of any vision to see further than their nose.
As I already said Allen offers us nothing in the attack mode and little in defence that impressed me.
As a hit up centre he has something ..as a devastating attacking winger..nothing yet.
One last pop athe not selecting Patchell...why do they bother ...if you are not going to.play him.
So Patchell..Giles and Thomas get no game time
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Re: RE: Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:04 pm
by PoolerSaint
ALunpg wrote:This us another Shane Williams syndrome...lack of any vision to see further than their nose.
As I already said Allen offers us nothing in the attack mode and little in defence that impressed me.
As a hit up centre he has something ..as a devastating attacking winger..nothing yet.
One last pop athe not selecting Patchell...why do they bother ...if you are not going to.play him.
So Patchell..Giles and Thomas get no game time
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Typical Welsh selection.
Patchell ended the season in great form - not used.
Sam Davies started the season in superb form - not selected in autumn. Ends the season in awful form - starts both games on tour.
Absolutely bonkers as usual.
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Re: RE: Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:09 am
by ALunpg
PoolerSaint wrote:ALunpg wrote:This us another Shane Williams syndrome...lack of any vision to see further than their nose.
As I already said Allen offers us nothing in the attack mode and little in defence that impressed me.
As a hit up centre he has something ..as a devastating attacking winger..nothing yet.
One last pop athe not selecting Patchell...why do they bother ...if you are not going to.play him.
So Patchell..Giles and Thomas get no game time
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Typical Welsh selection.
Patchell ended the season in great form - not used.
Sam Davies started the season in superb form - not selected in autumn. Ends the season in awful form - starts both games on tour.
Absolutely bonkers as usual.
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Blydi heck you have deciphered the selection code...they only select you when you are out of form. They put you in the squad and wait till you are not playing well before they put you in the team .Then they can say that they were correct not to select your before..
So that explains it all...why Cuthbert was picked so often

Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:59 am
by Sandydragon
Its like the Enigma code. Use it too often and it gets broken. Now all we need is Bon Jovi to make a shyte film about it!
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:58 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Keelan Giles not even on the bench. I am genuinely surprised.... how naive of me! Management stupidity continues to reach new heights.
So a winger who has scored 14 tries in a season is being held back by a centre who has hardly played this year. So Giles now has 1/2p, North, Sanjay, Amos, Cuthbert, Steff Evans AND Allen ahead of him. Are they deliberately trying to piss off the fans? Do they really want Giles to move to some other country (or discover a convenient granny) where he will be appreciated? I guess they weren't lying when they said this wasn't a development tour.
I'm struggling to care what happens in this match. We're clearly picking by size rather than ability (let alone form).
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:39 pm
by Numbers
Son of Mathonwy wrote:Keelan Giles not even on the bench. I am genuinely surprised.... how naive of me! Management stupidity continues to reach new heights.
So a winger who has scored 14 tries in a season is being held back by a centre who has hardly played this year. So Giles now has 1/2p, North, Sanjay, Amos, Cuthbert, Steff Evans AND Allen ahead of him. Are they deliberately trying to piss off the fans? Do they really want Giles to move to some other country (or discover a convenient granny) where he will be appreciated? I guess they weren't lying when they said this wasn't a development tour.
I'm struggling to care what happens in this match. We're clearly picking by size rather than ability (let alone form).
Totally agree, ridiculous decision to have a centre on the wing when we have one of the most exciting prospects available to us, he won't be finding a convenient granny though SOM as he played for the U20s so is tied to Wales.
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:46 pm
by morepork
Welsh brothers. When does this game kick off?
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:01 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Numbers wrote:Son of Mathonwy wrote:Keelan Giles not even on the bench. I am genuinely surprised.... how naive of me! Management stupidity continues to reach new heights.
So a winger who has scored 14 tries in a season is being held back by a centre who has hardly played this year. So Giles now has 1/2p, North, Sanjay, Amos, Cuthbert, Steff Evans AND Allen ahead of him. Are they deliberately trying to piss off the fans? Do they really want Giles to move to some other country (or discover a convenient granny) where he will be appreciated? I guess they weren't lying when they said this wasn't a development tour.
I'm struggling to care what happens in this match. We're clearly picking by size rather than ability (let alone form).
Totally agree, ridiculous decision to have a centre on the wing when we have one of the most exciting prospects available to us, he won't be finding a convenient granny though SOM as he played for the U20s
so is tied to Wales.
Good point, one glimmer of light in all this nonsense
It is difficult to imagine how much more Giles could have done to earn a chance for Wales. Even Evans will probably find it difficult to get a game once all the others return from the Lions or injury.
I guess this shows us Wales's management's thinking on the matter: wingers aren't there to score tries: they're just another defender.
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:10 pm
by Numbers
Son of Mathonwy wrote:Numbers wrote:Son of Mathonwy wrote:Keelan Giles not even on the bench. I am genuinely surprised.... how naive of me! Management stupidity continues to reach new heights.
So a winger who has scored 14 tries in a season is being held back by a centre who has hardly played this year. So Giles now has 1/2p, North, Sanjay, Amos, Cuthbert, Steff Evans AND Allen ahead of him. Are they deliberately trying to piss off the fans? Do they really want Giles to move to some other country (or discover a convenient granny) where he will be appreciated? I guess they weren't lying when they said this wasn't a development tour.
I'm struggling to care what happens in this match. We're clearly picking by size rather than ability (let alone form).
Totally agree, ridiculous decision to have a centre on the wing when we have one of the most exciting prospects available to us, he won't be finding a convenient granny though SOM as he played for the U20s
so is tied to Wales.
Good point, one glimmer of light in all this nonsense
It is difficult to imagine how much more Giles could have done to earn a chance for Wales. Even Evans will probably find it difficult to get a game once all the others return from the Lions or injury.
I guess this shows us Wales's management's thinking on the matter: wingers aren't there to score tries: they're just another defender.
The only possible reason I can see is he's on the field for crossfield kicks.
It's a shame that McBryde is getting this succession opportunity, Dai Young is the best Welsh coach about imo and he has no aversion to small wingers.
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:49 pm
by ALunpg
Numbers wrote:Son of Mathonwy wrote:Numbers wrote:
Totally agree, ridiculous decision to have a centre on the wing when we have one of the most exciting prospects available to us, he won't be finding a convenient granny though SOM as he played for the U20s so is tied to Wales.
Good point, one glimmer of light in all this nonsense
It is difficult to imagine how much more Giles could have done to earn a chance for Wales. Even Evans will probably find it difficult to get a game once all the others return from the Lions or injury.
I guess this shows us Wales's management's thinking on the matter: wingers aren't there to score tries: they're just another defender.
The only possible reason I can see is he's on the field for crossfield kicks.
It's a shame that McBryde is getting this succession opportunity, Dai Young is the best Welsh coach about imo and he has no aversion to small wingers.
Your are right there...but from what I have seen Stephen Jones and the Ospreys coaches team are ahead of him.
If Wayne Pivac carries on the way he is ...then he would be a better choice than Howler and Mcbryde.
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:20 pm
by Sandydragon
I think this puts into context why a number of coaches dropped out of this tour.
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:25 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
morepork wrote:Welsh brothers. When does this game kick off?
07:30 BST
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:30 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
ALunpg wrote:Numbers wrote:Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Good point, one glimmer of light in all this nonsense
It is difficult to imagine how much more Giles could have done to earn a chance for Wales. Even Evans will probably find it difficult to get a game once all the others return from the Lions or injury.
I guess this shows us Wales's management's thinking on the matter: wingers aren't there to score tries: they're just another defender.
The only possible reason I can see is he's on the field for crossfield kicks.
It's a shame that McBryde is getting this succession opportunity, Dai Young is the best Welsh coach about imo and he has no aversion to small wingers.
Your are right there...but from what I have seen Stephen Jones and the Ospreys coaches team are ahead of him.
If Wayne Pivac carries on the way he is ...then he would be a better choice than Howler and Mcbryde.
If the Scarlets can continue as they finished this season AND carry this form into Europe then he would be perfect for the job. Assuming that the WRU are happy to move to a totally different strategy to the one we've employed for the last decade.
Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:44 pm
by ALunpg
Son of Mathonwy wrote:ALunpg wrote:Numbers wrote:
The only possible reason I can see is he's on the field for crossfield kicks.
It's a shame that McBryde is getting this succession opportunity, Dai Young is the best Welsh coach about imo and he has no aversion to small wingers.
Your are right there...but from what I have seen Stephen Jones and the Ospreys coaches team are ahead of him.
If Wayne Pivac carries on the way he is ...then he would be a better choice than Howler and Mcbryde.
If the Scarlets can continue as they finished this season AND carry this form into Europe then he would be perfect for the job. Assuming that the WRU are happy to move to a totally different strategy to the one we've employed for the last decade.
I agree it would be a turn around but if we are going to be competive post Gatland then that will be the type of chsnge that is needed.I don't think the WRU really decide what style they play as long as the matches are sold out ...or am I too cynical

Re: Welsh Team v Manu Samoa.....whats your team.
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:50 pm
by morepork
Son of Mathonwy wrote:morepork wrote:Welsh brothers. When does this game kick off?
07:30 BST
Thanks boss.
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:37 am
by wayneha50
BBC2 is so low-resolution it's like watching a game back in the 1970s.
Unfortunately I doubt the rugby will be that good.