Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
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Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
Underhill starts.
15. Anthony Watson
14. Semesa Rokoduguni
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. Ben Tapuai
11. Matt Banahan
10. Rhys Priestland
9. Kahn Fotuali’i
1. Beno Obano
2. Tom Dunn
3. Anthony Perenise
4. Charlie Ewels
5. Elliott Stooke
6. Matt Garvey (capt)
7. Sam Underhill
8. Taulupe Faletau
Replacements
16. Jack Walker
17. Nick Auterac
18. Scott Andrews
19. James Phillips
20. Paul Grant
21. Darren Allinson
22. Freddie Burns
23. Max Clark
15. Anthony Watson
14. Semesa Rokoduguni
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. Ben Tapuai
11. Matt Banahan
10. Rhys Priestland
9. Kahn Fotuali’i
1. Beno Obano
2. Tom Dunn
3. Anthony Perenise
4. Charlie Ewels
5. Elliott Stooke
6. Matt Garvey (capt)
7. Sam Underhill
8. Taulupe Faletau
Replacements
16. Jack Walker
17. Nick Auterac
18. Scott Andrews
19. James Phillips
20. Paul Grant
21. Darren Allinson
22. Freddie Burns
23. Max Clark
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
Is Priestland first choice or is Burns carrying a knock?
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
I appreciate Blackadder having rested Max Clark so that Eddie can fully concentrate on Underhill.
Has Burns got much meaningful time yet?
Has Burns got much meaningful time yet?
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
Priestland has started the other games- and has played well. Freddie also looked good when he came on last week.Mellsblue wrote:Is Priestland first choice or is Burns carrying a knock?
Surprised Watson is fit, must have been a stinger.
...and no, Burns hasn;t had much time. Which is a shame.
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
15 Ahsee Tuala
14 George North
13 Rob Horne
12 Luther Burrell
11 Tom Collins
10 Harry Mallinder
9 Nic Groom
1 Alex Waller
2 Mikey Haywood
3 Paul Hill
4 Michael Paterson
5 David Ribbans
6 Courtney Lawes (capt)
7 Jamie Gibson
8 Teimana Harrison
16 Reece Marshall
17 Campese Ma’afu
18 Kieran Brookes
19 Christian Day
20 Lewis Ludlam
21 Cobus Reinach
22 James Grayson
23 Ben Foden
14 George North
13 Rob Horne
12 Luther Burrell
11 Tom Collins
10 Harry Mallinder
9 Nic Groom
1 Alex Waller
2 Mikey Haywood
3 Paul Hill
4 Michael Paterson
5 David Ribbans
6 Courtney Lawes (capt)
7 Jamie Gibson
8 Teimana Harrison
16 Reece Marshall
17 Campese Ma’afu
18 Kieran Brookes
19 Christian Day
20 Lewis Ludlam
21 Cobus Reinach
22 James Grayson
23 Ben Foden
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
This is why I asked. It's getting to the point where you'd think that Priestland is currently seen as first choice.Banquo wrote:Priestland has started the other games-Mellsblue wrote:Is Priestland first choice or is Burns carrying a knock?
...and no, Burns hasn;t had much time. Which is a shame.
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
Lawes at 6 again. I wonder if this is a longer term plan, perhaps on Jones' request. So many questions......
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I'd thought that when he was selected for the opening game, tbhMellsblue wrote:This is why I asked. It's getting to the point where you'd think that Priestland is currently seen as first choice.Banquo wrote:Priestland has started the other games-Mellsblue wrote:Is Priestland first choice or is Burns carrying a knock?
...and no, Burns hasn;t had much time. Which is a shame.
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
more likely shoring up after the debacle of saints first performance. Makes their lineout more flexible, but I wasn't with those giving Lawes plaudits for his 6 play, tbh.Mellsblue wrote:Lawes at 6 again. I wonder if this is a longer term plan, perhaps on Jones' request. So many questions......
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
Mitch Eadie and Tom Wood out injured, so that's probably why Lawes is at 6. That said, I recall an interview with Lawes recently where he said he prefers playing backrow.
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
Priestland has looked pretty good to me. I couldn't argue against him being 1st choice, for now anyway.Mellsblue wrote:This is why I asked. It's getting to the point where you'd think that Priestland is currently seen as first choice.Banquo wrote:Priestland has started the other games-Mellsblue wrote:Is Priestland first choice or is Burns carrying a knock?
...and no, Burns hasn;t had much time. Which is a shame.
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
yep he's played well; Freddy offers a different set of skills, and more to the party when on song. But Priestland is more predictable, generally (in a way that coaches like)Oakboy wrote:Priestland has looked pretty good to me. I couldn't argue against him being 1st choice, for now anyway.Mellsblue wrote:This is why I asked. It's getting to the point where you'd think that Priestland is currently seen as first choice.Banquo wrote: Priestland has started the other games-
...and no, Burns hasn;t had much time. Which is a shame.
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
Ludlum on the bench but started when Eadie was fit. There's also Nutley.Timbo wrote:Mitch Eadie and Tom Wood out injured, so that's probably why Lawes is at 6. That said, I recall an interview with Lawes recently where he said he prefers playing backrow.
I believe Lawes has constantly/consistently said he prefers 6.
I'm probably reading far too much in to it but I'm a bit bored today.
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
He may prefer 6, and indeed prob is worried about his long term England prospects for starting at lock (though he has looked increasingly an excellent candidate, notwithstanding the quality of competition there)_...but he is imo a much better lock than 6.Mellsblue wrote:Ludlum on the bench but started when Eadie was fit. There's also Nutley.Timbo wrote:Mitch Eadie and Tom Wood out injured, so that's probably why Lawes is at 6. That said, I recall an interview with Lawes recently where he said he prefers playing backrow.
I believe Lawes has constantly/consistently said he prefers 6.
I'm probably reading far too much in to it but I'm a bit bored today.
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
Prefers is one thing, but he's not good enough to play there internationally. I'd be happier seeing Ludlam play myself, but hey ho.Timbo wrote:Mitch Eadie and Tom Wood out injured, so that's probably why Lawes is at 6. That said, I recall an interview with Lawes recently where he said he prefers playing backrow.
I've given up trying to predict what will happen in this Prem season - all of my guesses so far have been utterly wrong. What do other people think?
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It's hard to say on the Lawes at 6 thing. After all he did play very well, while pretty much playing 6, for England recently. But I share your reservations.
People said Itoje suffered from the role, even though he didn't really do the role anyway. I just thought he was playing lock, but not playing particularly well. Or did he suffer due to doing a share of Lawes's work?
People said Itoje suffered from the role, even though he didn't really do the role anyway. I just thought he was playing lock, but not playing particularly well. Or did he suffer due to doing a share of Lawes's work?
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I agree. All of your guesses have been utterly wrong.Puja wrote:Prefers is one thing, but he's not good enough to play there internationally. I'd be happier seeing Ludlam play myself, but hey ho.Timbo wrote:Mitch Eadie and Tom Wood out injured, so that's probably why Lawes is at 6. That said, I recall an interview with Lawes recently where he said he prefers playing backrow.
I've given up trying to predict what will happen in this Prem season - all of my guesses so far have been utterly wrong. What do other people think?
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
Lawes packed down on the side of the scrum. Itoje was the one tasked with the flanker role around the pitch.Mikey Brown wrote:It's hard to say on the Lawes at 6 thing. After all he did play very well, while pretty much playing 6, for England recently. But I share your reservations.
People said Itoje suffered from the role, even though he didn't really do the role anyway. I just thought he was playing lock, but not playing particularly well. Or did he suffer due to doing a share of Lawes's work?
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
Burns missed most of pre-season with concussion, and only just got through the GRTP protocol in time for the first match.Banquo wrote:I'd thought that when he was selected for the opening game, tbhMellsblue wrote:This is why I asked. It's getting to the point where you'd think that Priestland is currently seen as first choice.Banquo wrote: Priestland has started the other games-
...and no, Burns hasn;t had much time. Which is a shame.
Rhys has also played well, and we know that Todd will given players a second shot if they show well... He's also a fan of rotation - see Louw&Clarke getting the weekend off, no noises of any injuries there
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
fair enough, good knowledgeWhich Tyler wrote:Burns missed most of pre-season with concussion, and only just got through the GRTP protocol in time for the first match.Banquo wrote:I'd thought that when he was selected for the opening game, tbhMellsblue wrote: This is why I asked. It's getting to the point where you'd think that Priestland is currently seen as first choice.
Rhys has also played well, and we know that Todd will given players a second shot if they show well... He's also a fan of rotation - see Louw&Clarke getting the weekend off, no noises of any injuries there

(also good move to rest Louw....looks twice the player after a bit of a break)
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I thought we rather saw the locks and blindside roll mixed up, or at least it simple depended on who was wherePuja wrote:Lawes packed down on the side of the scrum. Itoje was the one tasked with the flanker role around the pitch.Mikey Brown wrote:It's hard to say on the Lawes at 6 thing. After all he did play very well, while pretty much playing 6, for England recently. But I share your reservations.
People said Itoje suffered from the role, even though he didn't really do the role anyway. I just thought he was playing lock, but not playing particularly well. Or did he suffer due to doing a share of Lawes's work?
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me too, I was going to be picky and ask what lead Puja to that statement.Digby wrote:I thought we rather saw the locks and blindside roll mixed up, or at least it simple depended on who was wherePuja wrote:Lawes packed down on the side of the scrum. Itoje was the one tasked with the flanker role around the pitch.Mikey Brown wrote:It's hard to say on the Lawes at 6 thing. After all he did play very well, while pretty much playing 6, for England recently. But I share your reservations.
People said Itoje suffered from the role, even though he didn't really do the role anyway. I just thought he was playing lock, but not playing particularly well. Or did he suffer due to doing a share of Lawes's work?
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
If you were going to picky you'd ask, and then edit it to ask something else.Banquo wrote:me too, I was going to be picky and ask what lead Puja to that statement.Digby wrote:I thought we rather saw the locks and blindside roll mixed up, or at least it simple depended on who was wherePuja wrote:
Lawes packed down on the side of the scrum. Itoje was the one tasked with the flanker role around the pitch.
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you say edit, I say give due considerationDigby wrote:If you were going to picky you'd ask, and then edit it to ask something else.Banquo wrote:me too, I was going to be picky and ask what lead Puja to that statement.Digby wrote:
I thought we rather saw the locks and blindside roll mixed up, or at least it simple depended on who was where
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Re: Bath vs Saints Fri 19:45
Lawes at 6 makes room for Pato and Ribbans in the row, so I can certainly get behind that. Don't think the balance is quite right with Gibson at 7 though, would prefer Ludlam there instead.