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Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:37 pm
by fivepointer
Leicester: Tait; Thompstone, Tuilagi, Toomua, May; Ford, B Youngs; Mulipola, T Youngs (captain), Cole, Fitzgerald, Kitchener, Mapapalangi, Williams, Kalafamoni.
Replacements: Polota-Nau, Traynor, Baumann, Wells, Hamilton, Harrison, Ford, Malouf.
Saracens: Goode; Maitland Bosch Lozowski Wyles; Farrell, Spencer; Vunipola, George, Figallo, Skelton, Kruis, Isiekwe, Burger, Wray.
Replacements: Tolofua, Barrington, Koch, Rhodes, Clark, Whiteley, Tompkins, Earle.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:11 pm
by Puja
Thank you 5p - appreciated as always. Our back row balance still is not right, but on the bright side, Sarries are still playing a lock at 6, so maybe it'll balance out.
Looking forward to seeing that backline now that the centres have had 80 minutes to shake some of the rustiness off.
Puja
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:44 pm
by Mellsblue
Sarries fans, is Henry Taylor injured?
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:49 pm
by Oakboy
That Leicester bench won't exactly make Saracens quake.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:58 pm
by Tigersman
Yeh that sarries bench in the forwards is massive.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:38 pm
by twitchy
Hope that's allowed.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:38 pm
by Mellsblue
What. An. Offload.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:39 pm
by twitchy
Yep lovely.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:40 pm
by Mellsblue
Great kick from a test match animal.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:41 pm
by Mellsblue
End to end stuff from a Leicester v Sarries match. Merry Christmas everyone.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:43 pm
by twitchy
Skelton looks like a different guy having lost all that weight.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:53 pm
by Scrumhead
Entertaining game so far.
Mike Williams really is w@nk though. I thought he was rubbish against Munster and he’s been worse today. He carries like a fanny and for a player reputed to bring aggression, I think he’s looked powderpuff in defence too.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:04 pm
by Spiffy
Scrumhead wrote:Entertaining game so far.
Mike Williams really is w@nk though. I thought he was rubbish against Munster and he’s been worse today. He carries like a fanny and for a player reputed to bring aggression, I think he’s looked powderpuff in defence too.
It's not just Williams. All the Leicester ball carriers are making little impression. They seem content to seek contact and just run into the nearest defender without loooking for an offload.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:13 pm
by Mellsblue
twitchy wrote:Skelton looks like a different guy having lost all that weight.
Rank average?
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:18 pm
by Mellsblue
What is a positive interaction? Farrell had 1/1 for kicks and I thought his kick through was a waste of good, quick, attacking possession. As for a ‘positive pass’ being solely down to accuracy, that’s utter balls. As Goode then pointed out. He also pointed out that a flyhalf is very much reliant on the quality of ball, of those on his team and the opposition. As always, stats are only useful if used as context rather than unarguable facts.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:23 pm
by Oakboy
Why didn't the ref card Kitchener for such blatant rudeness? It was open dissent.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:30 pm
by Scrumhead
Spiffy wrote:Scrumhead wrote:Entertaining game so far.
Mike Williams really is w@nk though. I thought he was rubbish against Munster and he’s been worse today. He carries like a fanny and for a player reputed to bring aggression, I think he’s looked powderpuff in defence too.
It's not just Williams. All the Leicester ball carriers are making little impression. They seem content to seek contact and just run into the nearest defender without loooking for an offload.
No it isn’t just Williams but for a guy who was touted as an England’s contender he’s looked particularly poor. It’s saying something when Jackson Wray looks like a World-beater in comparison.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:37 pm
by Timbo
Sarries should be out of sight here. They’ve bombed 3/4 try’s.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:50 pm
by Mellsblue
What a horror show from Youngs.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:55 pm
by Timbo
Mellsblue wrote:What is a positive interaction? Farrell had 1/1 for kicks and I thought his kick through was a waste of good, quick, attacking possession. As for a ‘positive pass’ being solely down to accuracy, that’s utter balls. As Goode then pointed out. He also pointed out that a flyhalf is very much reliant on the quality of ball, of those on his team and the opposition. As always, stats are only useful if used as context rather than unarguable facts.
I thought Farrell looked a class above everyone else tbh.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:04 pm
by Oakboy
Tuilagi looks at least a dozen games away from being match-sharp. Mako had a pretty awful match.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:05 pm
by Oakboy
Mellsblue wrote:What a horror show from Youngs.
What did you think of Spencer?
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:07 pm
by Timbo
Oakboy wrote:Mako had a pretty awful match.
Sarries scrum was crap, of which Mako is a part of course. In open play he was very good I thought.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:11 pm
by fivepointer
Outside of the scrum (where Cole completely dominated Mako) Sarries were far superior. They werent at their best but did enough to end their losing run. i thought Spencer was excellent and Wray a deserved moTM. Isiekwe is no back rower but is going to be some lock when he fills out a bit.
Manu is miles off international pace, but that is to be expected given his lack of game time.
Re: Tigers v Saracens Sun 3pm
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:17 pm
by Timbo
fivepointer wrote:Outside of the scrum (where Cole completely dominated Mako) Sarries were far superior. They werent at their best but did enough to end their losing run. i thought Spencer was excellent and Wray a deserved moTM. Isiekwe is no back rower but is going to be some lock when he fills out a bit.
Manu is miles off international pace, but that is to be expected given his lack of game time.
Largely agree with that. A Sarries team that’s been winning would have won that by 20. Add in their injured blokes and there is a gulf between the two teams. Tigers will be alsorans until they overhaul the back 5 of their scrum.