Premiership Squads 2018/19
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Premiership Squads 2018/19
I thought we could post our team's squads here, as somewhere to get all the players in one place.
So here is Quins. Current academy players in Italics, EQP in bold, additional positions played in brackets.
Marler, Lambert, Auterac, Boyce
Ward (7), Buchanan, Elia, Crumpton
Sinckler, Collier, Swainston, McNulty
Horwill, Symons, Glynn (6)
Merrick, Dombrandt (8), South
Robshaw (7), Bothma (8), Chisholm (7, 8), Lamb (lock)
Wallace, White (6)
Clifford (6, 7), Luamanu (6)
Care, Lewis, Mulchrone, Waters
Smith, Catrakilis, Lang (12, 15), Swiel (15)
Visser, Earle, Mikalcius, Ibitoye (13)
Tapuai, Saili (13)
Marchant, Cheeseman (12, wing)
Walker, Alofa (13), Chisholm (15)
Brown, Morris (wing)
It's actually a little better than I thought. Other than openside, we have cover everywhere, while we do have quality in both the first XV and in depth.
Worries remain over centre, especially if Saili is unfit for most of the season again, while there are a number of journeymen in that squad we'd be better off without.
When England are playing, we should be reasonably covered this time around, with the signing of Auterac and the returns from injury of Buchanan, Bothma, Wallace, Catrakilis, Saili and Mikalcius.
43 players in the first team squad does seem a little bloated, mind. But of those, only 12 are non-EQP, for a %age of 72%. Could be higher if it wasn't for Lang's poach.
So here is Quins. Current academy players in Italics, EQP in bold, additional positions played in brackets.
Marler, Lambert, Auterac, Boyce
Ward (7), Buchanan, Elia, Crumpton
Sinckler, Collier, Swainston, McNulty
Horwill, Symons, Glynn (6)
Merrick, Dombrandt (8), South
Robshaw (7), Bothma (8), Chisholm (7, 8), Lamb (lock)
Wallace, White (6)
Clifford (6, 7), Luamanu (6)
Care, Lewis, Mulchrone, Waters
Smith, Catrakilis, Lang (12, 15), Swiel (15)
Visser, Earle, Mikalcius, Ibitoye (13)
Tapuai, Saili (13)
Marchant, Cheeseman (12, wing)
Walker, Alofa (13), Chisholm (15)
Brown, Morris (wing)
It's actually a little better than I thought. Other than openside, we have cover everywhere, while we do have quality in both the first XV and in depth.
Worries remain over centre, especially if Saili is unfit for most of the season again, while there are a number of journeymen in that squad we'd be better off without.
When England are playing, we should be reasonably covered this time around, with the signing of Auterac and the returns from injury of Buchanan, Bothma, Wallace, Catrakilis, Saili and Mikalcius.
43 players in the first team squad does seem a little bloated, mind. But of those, only 12 are non-EQP, for a %age of 72%. Could be higher if it wasn't for Lang's poach.
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Swiel is EQP, isn't he? Thought he was born here. Not that he'll ever trouble an EPS mind, but he'll get you an extra couple of percent.
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If only our quality on paper meant anything.
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Oh joy.Puja wrote:Swiel is EQP, isn't he? Thought he was born here. Not that he'll ever trouble an EPS mind, but he'll get you an extra couple of percent.
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Yeah, Swiel is one of those players I was talking about when I said 43 was a bit large...Basically, I'd drop him, Alofa and one of Bothma or Luamanu, depending on the former's return from injury.
And Mikey, indeed. Though hopefully those 2 new coaches (and maybe a 3rd on the way) make the difference.
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Tigers so far but nothing fully confirmed.
Will need to add U18's who have been promoted once they are announced.
1. Genge, Bateman, Gigena, Hills, Grahamslaw
2. Polota-Nau, Youngs, Kerr, Stevens, Mahoney
3. Cole, Feao (TBC), Cilliers, Cortes, Heyes
4. Spencer, Wells, Voss,
5. Kitchener, Fitzgerald, Lewis
6. Kalamafoni, Williams,
7. O'Connor, Evans, Reffell
8. Thompson, Denton, Mapapalangi, Tuilagi 27
9. Youngs, Harrison, Simmons, White
10. Ford, Ford, Hardwick 26
11. May, Aspland-Robinson
12. Toomua, Owen, Worth
13. Tuilagi, Tait, Smith, Thacker
14. Holmes, Thompstone,
15. Veainu, Olowofela
38 senior players
12 Non-EQP
13 Senior academy currently
2 Non-EQP
Together it would be 52 players and 14 EQP = 73%
Average age (Not including Academy players) = 27
Youngster positional group - 7 (24 years old) and Loosehead (25 years old)
Centres and Back 3 look a little thin potentially.
Will need to add U18's who have been promoted once they are announced.
1. Genge, Bateman, Gigena, Hills, Grahamslaw
2. Polota-Nau, Youngs, Kerr, Stevens, Mahoney
3. Cole, Feao (TBC), Cilliers, Cortes, Heyes
4. Spencer, Wells, Voss,
5. Kitchener, Fitzgerald, Lewis
6. Kalamafoni, Williams,
7. O'Connor, Evans, Reffell
8. Thompson, Denton, Mapapalangi, Tuilagi 27
9. Youngs, Harrison, Simmons, White
10. Ford, Ford, Hardwick 26
11. May, Aspland-Robinson
12. Toomua, Owen, Worth
13. Tuilagi, Tait, Smith, Thacker
14. Holmes, Thompstone,
15. Veainu, Olowofela
38 senior players
12 Non-EQP
13 Senior academy currently
2 Non-EQP
Together it would be 52 players and 14 EQP = 73%
Average age (Not including Academy players) = 27
Youngster positional group - 7 (24 years old) and Loosehead (25 years old)
Centres and Back 3 look a little thin potentially.
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Bath still waiting on confirmation for the academy; and an injury replacement for Obano.
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Will you get a replacement for Obano?
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Yes, rumoured to be looking at Jacques van Rooyen from The Lions
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For Glaws:-
39 players in the senior squad
Props: Fraser Balmain, Ruan Dreyer, Gareth Denman, Josh Hohneck, Paddy Mcallister, Val RR
Hookers: Franco Marais, Todd Gleave, James Hanson
Second Row: Ed Slater, Mariano Galarza, Gerbrandt Grobler, Franco Mostert, Tom Savage
Back Row: Ruan Ackermann, Freddie Clarke, Gareth Evans, Jaco Kriel, Ben Morgan, Lewis Ludlow, Jake Polledri, Will Safe
Scrum Half: Ben Vellacott, Calum Braley, Willi Heinz
Fly Half: Owen Wiliams, Danny Cipriani, Billy Burns, Lloyd Evans
Centres: Mark Atkinson, Billy Twelvetrees, Tom Hudson, Henry Trinder
Wings: Matt Banahan, Charlie Sharples, Ollie Thorley, Henry Purdy
Full Backs: Jason Woodward, Tom Marshall
17 Academy players, (8 of which have had first XV action) but this has not been updated recently so there could be a couple more
Senior squad 27/39 EQP - 69%
Academy 17/17 EQP - 100%
Overall EQP = 79%
I think we are looking a little light at Full back/Wing, on the Glos website Tom Marshall is listed as a centre
39 players in the senior squad
Props: Fraser Balmain, Ruan Dreyer, Gareth Denman, Josh Hohneck, Paddy Mcallister, Val RR
Hookers: Franco Marais, Todd Gleave, James Hanson
Second Row: Ed Slater, Mariano Galarza, Gerbrandt Grobler, Franco Mostert, Tom Savage
Back Row: Ruan Ackermann, Freddie Clarke, Gareth Evans, Jaco Kriel, Ben Morgan, Lewis Ludlow, Jake Polledri, Will Safe
Scrum Half: Ben Vellacott, Calum Braley, Willi Heinz
Fly Half: Owen Wiliams, Danny Cipriani, Billy Burns, Lloyd Evans
Centres: Mark Atkinson, Billy Twelvetrees, Tom Hudson, Henry Trinder
Wings: Matt Banahan, Charlie Sharples, Ollie Thorley, Henry Purdy
Full Backs: Jason Woodward, Tom Marshall
17 Academy players, (8 of which have had first XV action) but this has not been updated recently so there could be a couple more
Senior squad 27/39 EQP - 69%
Academy 17/17 EQP - 100%
Overall EQP = 79%
I think we are looking a little light at Full back/Wing, on the Glos website Tom Marshall is listed as a centre
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Bristol:
Loose Head
Lay (james), Y.Thomas, Woolmore, Cosgrove, Dawe
Tight Head
Afoa, Lay (jordan), Thiede, Armstrong, Faletau, Dawe
Hooker
Thacker, Malton, Lindsay, Fenton-Wells, Capon (W)
Lock
Vui, Joyce, Batley, Holmes, Muldowney, Latta, Hawkins, Ehizode
Blind
Lam, Jefferies, Dun
Open
Smith (6 Months), Heenan, D.Thomas, Graham
No.8
Lautua, Crane, Haining
Scrum Half
Stirzaker, Uren, Randall, Cullen
Fly Half
Madigan, Sheedy, Eden
Inside Centre
Piatau S, Pisi, Hurrell, Bedlow
Outside Centre
Lieua, O'Connor, Tovey
Wings
Morahan, Edwards, Pincus, Perkins, Chapman, Powell
Fullback
Piatau C, Daniels, Protheroe
Junior Academy
Brabham (Prop), Rowland (Prop), English (Prop), J.Capon (Back Row), Thurston (Back Row) Cappaert (Fly Half), Chamberlain (Fly Half), Welsh (Centre)
A bit light at Lock and centre for my liking - it'll be a long tough season and I'll be happy with 11th.
EQP is about 65% including the senior academy (all EQP), might be a little higher as I'm not sure about Malton and Stirzaker's status.
Loose Head
Lay (james), Y.Thomas, Woolmore, Cosgrove, Dawe
Tight Head
Afoa, Lay (jordan), Thiede, Armstrong, Faletau, Dawe
Hooker
Thacker, Malton, Lindsay, Fenton-Wells, Capon (W)
Lock
Vui, Joyce, Batley, Holmes, Muldowney, Latta, Hawkins, Ehizode
Blind
Lam, Jefferies, Dun
Open
Smith (6 Months), Heenan, D.Thomas, Graham
No.8
Lautua, Crane, Haining
Scrum Half
Stirzaker, Uren, Randall, Cullen
Fly Half
Madigan, Sheedy, Eden
Inside Centre
Piatau S, Pisi, Hurrell, Bedlow
Outside Centre
Lieua, O'Connor, Tovey
Wings
Morahan, Edwards, Pincus, Perkins, Chapman, Powell
Fullback
Piatau C, Daniels, Protheroe
Junior Academy
Brabham (Prop), Rowland (Prop), English (Prop), J.Capon (Back Row), Thurston (Back Row) Cappaert (Fly Half), Chamberlain (Fly Half), Welsh (Centre)
A bit light at Lock and centre for my liking - it'll be a long tough season and I'll be happy with 11th.
EQP is about 65% including the senior academy (all EQP), might be a little higher as I'm not sure about Malton and Stirzaker's status.
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57 senior players in the squad plus 8 academy?
And you look light at centre and lock?
And you look light at centre and lock?
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From Wiki, so may be a bit off, but it looks right to me.
Bold = EQP Italics = Academy
Loosehead
Ben Harris
Simon McIntyre
Matt Mullan
Tom West
Zurab Zhvania
George Thornton
Hooker
Antonio Harris
Tom Cruse Hooker
Tommy Taylor
Ashley Johnson
Gabriel Oghre
Tighthead
Will Stuart
Kieran Brookes
Jake Cooper-Woolley
David Langley
Locks
Marcus Garratt
James Gaskell
Joe Launchbury
Charlie Matthews
Kearnan Myall
Will Rowlands
Tim Cardall
Flankers
Joe Atkinson
Ben Morris
Alex Rieder
Brad Shields
Jack Willis
Thomas Young
Kieran Curran
Will Wilson
Tom Willis
8s
Nathan Hughes
Nizaam Carr
Scrum-half
Craig Hampson
Dan Robson
Joe Simpson
Will Porter
Fly-half
Billy Searle
Jimmy Gopperth
Lima Sopoaga
Jacob Umaga
Centres
Elliot Daly
Michael Le Bourgeois
Ross Neal
Juan de Jongh
Gabiriele Lovobalavu
Sam Spink
Cameron Anderson
Wingers
Josh Bassett
Christian Wade
Marcus Watson
Ambrose Curtis
Callum Sirker
Fullbacks
Rob Miller
Willie le Roux
Owain James
Will Simonds
Reassuringly a lot in bold there, I presume George Thornton is EQP despite playing Scotland u20s. 43 in the senior squad 13 in Senior academy I believe.
Bold = EQP Italics = Academy
Loosehead
Ben Harris
Simon McIntyre
Matt Mullan
Tom West
Zurab Zhvania
George Thornton
Hooker
Antonio Harris
Tom Cruse Hooker
Tommy Taylor
Ashley Johnson
Gabriel Oghre
Tighthead
Will Stuart
Kieran Brookes
Jake Cooper-Woolley
David Langley
Locks
Marcus Garratt
James Gaskell
Joe Launchbury
Charlie Matthews
Kearnan Myall
Will Rowlands
Tim Cardall
Flankers
Joe Atkinson
Ben Morris
Alex Rieder
Brad Shields
Jack Willis
Thomas Young
Kieran Curran
Will Wilson
Tom Willis
8s
Nathan Hughes
Nizaam Carr
Scrum-half
Craig Hampson
Dan Robson
Joe Simpson
Will Porter
Fly-half
Billy Searle
Jimmy Gopperth
Lima Sopoaga
Jacob Umaga
Centres
Elliot Daly
Michael Le Bourgeois
Ross Neal
Juan de Jongh
Gabiriele Lovobalavu
Sam Spink
Cameron Anderson
Wingers
Josh Bassett
Christian Wade
Marcus Watson
Ambrose Curtis
Callum Sirker
Fullbacks
Rob Miller
Willie le Roux
Owain James
Will Simonds
Reassuringly a lot in bold there, I presume George Thornton is EQP despite playing Scotland u20s. 43 in the senior squad 13 in Senior academy I believe.
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The SA means academy, I believe, so it's 48 and 9 academy (the 8 listed are junior academy, so I doubt they'll feature).Gloskarlos wrote:57 senior players in the squad plus 8 academy?
And you look light at centre and lock?
Which is still high, but there are 11 props and only 6 back 3 players...
There's 6 senior centres, though, so I don't think you're light there, plus the lock issue looks to be more about quality than quantity...
Briz do seem to have a spattering of star quality backed up by real journeymen... It's the age old question of whether a few stars can lift up the performance of the team as a whole. As outside of Luatua, Madigan and the Piatau's (plus an OAP Smith), there's not a lot of quality...
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Brizzle seem to be in another league in terms of player numbers over the rest of the prem, not seen a lot of business conducted by Northampton or Exeter really so I am assuming their squad sizes are similar to Glos/Tigers/Bath etc.Stom wrote:The SA means academy, I believe, so it's 48 and 9 academy (the 8 listed are junior academy, so I doubt they'll feature).Gloskarlos wrote:57 senior players in the squad plus 8 academy?
And you look light at centre and lock?
Which is still high, but there are 11 props and only 6 back 3 players...
There's 6 senior centres, though, so I don't think you're light there, plus the lock issue looks to be more about quality than quantity...
Briz do seem to have a spattering of star quality backed up by real journeymen... It's the age old question of whether a few stars can lift up the performance of the team as a whole. As outside of Luatua, Madigan and the Piatau's (plus an OAP Smith), there's not a lot of quality...
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Most seem to hover around 20-24 forwards and 15-20 backs. Briz have 29 forwards...that's their problem I'd say. They had some underwhelming players signed up to contracts longer than they should have been and now they're in the AP, they need quality on top of those players...Gloskarlos wrote:Brizzle seem to be in another league in terms of player numbers over the rest of the prem, not seen a lot of business conducted by Northampton or Exeter really so I am assuming their squad sizes are similar to Glos/Tigers/Bath etc.Stom wrote:The SA means academy, I believe, so it's 48 and 9 academy (the 8 listed are junior academy, so I doubt they'll feature).Gloskarlos wrote:57 senior players in the squad plus 8 academy?
And you look light at centre and lock?
Which is still high, but there are 11 props and only 6 back 3 players...
There's 6 senior centres, though, so I don't think you're light there, plus the lock issue looks to be more about quality than quantity...
Briz do seem to have a spattering of star quality backed up by real journeymen... It's the age old question of whether a few stars can lift up the performance of the team as a whole. As outside of Luatua, Madigan and the Piatau's (plus an OAP Smith), there's not a lot of quality...
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Meant light in quality not numbers, Stom has it right. We had too many players that aren't up to standard (Faletau for one) that had another year to go so we couldn't get rid.Gloskarlos wrote:57 senior players in the squad plus 8 academy?
And you look light at centre and lock?
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Incredible to look at those locks - 6 senior second rows and I'm not sure I'd say one of them is Premiership starter quality.Gloskarlos wrote:Brizzle seem to be in another league in terms of player numbers over the rest of the prem, not seen a lot of business conducted by Northampton or Exeter really so I am assuming their squad sizes are similar to Glos/Tigers/Bath etc.Stom wrote:The SA means academy, I believe, so it's 48 and 9 academy (the 8 listed are junior academy, so I doubt they'll feature).Gloskarlos wrote:57 senior players in the squad plus 8 academy?
And you look light at centre and lock?
Which is still high, but there are 11 props and only 6 back 3 players...
There's 6 senior centres, though, so I don't think you're light there, plus the lock issue looks to be more about quality than quantity...
Briz do seem to have a spattering of star quality backed up by real journeymen... It's the age old question of whether a few stars can lift up the performance of the team as a whole. As outside of Luatua, Madigan and the Piatau's (plus an OAP Smith), there's not a lot of quality...
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UnderstoodjimKRFC wrote:Meant light in quality not numbers, Stom has it right. We had too many players that aren't up to standard (Faletau for one) that had another year to go so we couldn't get rid.Gloskarlos wrote:57 senior players in the squad plus 8 academy?
And you look light at centre and lock?
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Thought I posted this earlier but it doesn’t seem to have gone through. I can only assume that Puja has put some sort of spam filter on....
Why did Perkins leave Sarries for Brizzle - I doubt they got rid. If he were getting plenty of 1stXV experience I could understand it but he’s still down as academy. Weird.
Why did Perkins leave Sarries for Brizzle - I doubt they got rid. If he were getting plenty of 1stXV experience I could understand it but he’s still down as academy. Weird.
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Perkins had Lemi and, for a lot of the season, Varndell in front of him last season. He should get a good shot this season. Ehizode should get some time as well as should Batley as he's now all clear of cancer.Mellsblue wrote: Why did Perkins leave Sarries for Brizzle - I doubt they got rid. If he were getting plenty of 1stXV experience I could understand it but he’s still down as academy. Weird.
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I hope so, but he’s still marked as academy which at 22 seems strange. He needed gametime last season. He was injured during his DR season at Bedford in 16/17, luckily whilst with Sarries (I think) otherwise with him and Earle we’d never see a Sarries winger again, and came back playing poorly both for Bedford and Eng u20 - he looked liked he lost a lot of confidence. He’s then spent a season languishing in Bristol’s second team or Hartpury, who, I believe, he didn’t play for very often - may be wrong on this. I would’ve thought he’d have been better off playing Sarries A/Anglo-Welsh/the odd 1st XV. Just seems a strange decision on the face of it.jimKRFC wrote:Perkins had Lemi and, for a lot of the season, Varndell in front of him last season. He should get a good shot this season. Ehizode should get some time as well as should Batley as he's now all clear of cancer.Mellsblue wrote: Why did Perkins leave Sarries for Brizzle - I doubt they got rid. If he were getting plenty of 1stXV experience I could understand it but he’s still down as academy. Weird.
Read about Batley last week. Brilliant news.
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Dammit, filter must be broken - your posts are coming through again.Mellsblue wrote:Thought I posted this earlier but it doesn’t seem to have gone through. I can only assume that Puja has put some sort of spam filter on....
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I gave Stephen Jones a call and asked him how he gets round the one at the Sunday Times. If his cheat gets his rubbish through their’s, anything on here will sail through any filter GCHQ could ever conceive.Puja wrote:Dammit, filter must be broken - your posts are coming through again.Mellsblue wrote:Thought I posted this earlier but it doesn’t seem to have gone through. I can only assume that Puja has put some sort of spam filter on....
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I'll be putting this together a bit better
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I'll put this together a bit better
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