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Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:04 pm
by Tigersman
Just in

smurph taken over.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:06 pm
by Mellsblue
What a farce. I think the problems start higher up, though. Always look for root cause.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:07 pm
by Tigersman
Mellsblue wrote:What a farce. I think the problems start higher up, though. Always look for root cause.
More will follow now.

Open forum tomorrow will be very interesting will keep people updated from it if they want.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:08 pm
by Which Tyler
Jebus!
After one match?
I know it was a bad one, but f he was good enough to keep beyond May, then he's good enough to give a couple of months before judging.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:10 pm
by Tigersman
Which Tyler wrote:Jebus!
After one match?
I know it was a bad one, but f he was good enough to keep beyond May, then he's good enough to give a couple of months before judging.
It wasn't just one game TBF.

Not wanting to go to much into it in public BUT that 1 game performance was the final straw.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:12 pm
by Which Tyler
Tigersman wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:Jebus!
After one match?
I know it was a bad one, but f he was good enough to keep beyond May, then he's good enough to give a couple of months before judging.
It wasn't just one game TBF.

Not wanting to go to much into it in public BUT that 1 game performance was the final straw.
If he was in that much trouble, then should have got rid 3 months ago.
Unless there's a non-rugby reason of course

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:15 pm
by fivepointer
The timing is odd to say the least. I daresay there's been a bit going on pre season.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:16 pm
by Tigersman
Which Tyler wrote:
Tigersman wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:Jebus!
After one match?
I know it was a bad one, but f he was good enough to keep beyond May, then he's good enough to give a couple of months before judging.
It wasn't just one game TBF.

Not wanting to go to much into it in public BUT that 1 game performance was the final straw.
If he was in that much trouble, then should have got rid 3 months ago.
Unless there's a non-rugby reason of course
I'll find out more details either tonight or tomorrow, but as said i don't want to fully go into it just yet without getting it double confirmed.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:20 pm
by Tigersman
Murphy time to show us what he has got.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:34 pm
by Mellsblue
fivepointer wrote:The timing is odd to say the least. I daresay there's been a bit going on pre season.
Supposedly, plenty of arguments in pre-season. From what I’ve heard - all very much tenth hand - this might be because of a player revolt. Allegedly.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:35 pm
by Mellsblue
Tigersman wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:What a farce. I think the problems start higher up, though. Always look for root cause.
will keep people updated from it if they want.
Yes, please.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:40 pm
by Tigersman
Mellsblue wrote:
fivepointer wrote:The timing is odd to say the least. I daresay there's been a bit going on pre season.
Supposedly, plenty of arguments in pre-season. From what I’ve heard - all very much tenth hand - this might be because of a player revolt. Allegedly.
Will say from what I gather the players where fine with him, now Exeter game might have changed some people's minds, but during pre-season it wasn't the players with fault against MOC.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:44 pm
by Puja
Bloody hell. I can't exactly say I'm disappointed - I was never in favour of hiring him in the first place, both for his previous attitude problems and his lacklustre record after leaving Leicester, and the performances have hardly been inspiring across his tenure - but the timing is ridiculous. If he wasn't bad enough to get rid of over the summer, he's not bad enough to get rid of after one game, no matter how awful it was.

Puja

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:52 pm
by Puja
Mellsblue wrote:
Tigersman wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:What a farce. I think the problems start higher up, though. Always look for root cause.
will keep people updated from it if they want.
Yes, please.
Seconded.

Not sure about Murphy taking over. He's been a consistent theme across several failed regimes and as backs coach, he's surely in charge of the sow's ear that's been made out of a Youngs, Ford, May, Toomua, Manu backline. I've yet to see any evidence that he's the solution rather than part of the problem.

Puja

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:11 pm
by Mellsblue
Tigersman wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
fivepointer wrote:The timing is odd to say the least. I daresay there's been a bit going on pre season.
Supposedly, plenty of arguments in pre-season. From what I’ve heard - all very much tenth hand - this might be because of a player revolt. Allegedly.
Will say from what I gather the players where fine with him, now Exeter game might have changed some people's minds, but during pre-season it wasn't the players with fault against MOC.
Ah, ok. As I said, my info is very much tenth hand. Chinese whispers obviously kept the pre-season arguments but changed who they were between.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:13 pm
by Tigersman
My 2 cents on what MIGHT have happened.

Sale game gave MOC some more time, Board wanted changes done in Pre-season, Pre-season for Tigers wasn't great, Tigers get hammered first game looking unfit and clueless, Board prob thought to themselves WTF have you done all pre-season..... blah blah blah

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:17 pm
by Puja
Board need shooting in the first place for having a "worldwide search for a leading coach" and coming up with our former assistant who left to go be unwhelming elsewhere. After hiring and then firing, they've got to fall on their swords, especially after choosing this timing to do it.

Puja

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:33 pm
by Tigersman
turned down Ackermann just remember that...

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:39 pm
by Raggs
You have to put some effort in to ruin a Youngs, Ford, May, Toomua/Eastmond, Tuilagi, ?, Veianu backline.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:44 pm
by twitchy
\who do you think is available?

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:50 pm
by Mellsblue
Buckland has just left Ealing.....

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:52 pm
by Tigersman
twitchy wrote:\who do you think is available?
Right now no one.
I suspect Tigers might be looking at the post world cup market.

Murphy deserves his chance now, at we should know by at least March if he is up for the big job so the RWC coaches will still be on the market potentially.

All of Tigers biggest successful coaches had no previous head coaching experiance hopefully that might happen again.

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:57 pm
by Stom
Mike Ford?

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:00 pm
by Tigersman
Stom wrote:Mike Ford?
Not even funny.

Puja needs to ban you for that :evil: ;)

Re: Matt O'Connor has left Leicester Tigers

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:16 pm
by Mellsblue
Tigersman wrote:
Stom wrote:Mike Ford?
Not even funny.

Puja needs to ban you for that :evil: ;)
Puja probably put him up to it.