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Nat. . . GS . . 6N . . TC 
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Eng . . .  / . . . . / . . . . / 
Fra  . . . /  . . .  / . . . . x 
Ire  . . .  / . . . . / . . . . / 
Ita . . .  / . . . .  / . . . . x 
Sco . .  /. . . .  /  . . .  /
Wal . .  / . . . . /  . . . ./ 

key:
/ - still a chance
x - no chance
w - winner

Sticking to your guns after France's first half? This is obviously highly time sensitive

Danno wrote:Sticking to your guns after France's first half? This is obviously highly time sensitive

The x is for the Triple Crown. Because, well, France and Italy cannot win that...

QUIET sensible person. You'll sober me uo

(thank you for clarifying )

Danno wrote:Sticking to your guns after France's first half? This is obviously highly time sensitive

That was an impressive implosion.

Nat. . . GS . . 6N . . TC 
---------------------------------
Eng . . .  / . . . . / . . . . / 
Fra  . . . x . . . . / . . . . x 
Ire  . . .  / . . . . / . . . . / 
Ita . . .  / . . . .  / . . . . x 
Sco . .  /. . . .  /  . . .  /
Wal . .  / . . . . /  . . . ./ 

Nat. . . GS . . 6N . . TC 
---------------------------------
Eng . . .  / . . . . / . . . . / 
Fra  . . . x . . . . / . . . . x 
Ire  . . .  / . . . . / . . . . / 
Ita . . .  x . . . . / . . . . x 
Sco . .  /. . . .  /  . . .  /
Wal . .  / . . . . /  . . . ./ 

after round 1, our Latin cousins take a step back, and a hiccough from Ire:

Nat. . . GS . . 6N . . TC 
---------------------------------
Eng . . .  / . . . . / . . . . / 
Fra  . . . x  . . .  / . . . . x 
Ire  . . .  x . . . . / . . . . x 
Ita . . .  x . . . . / . . . . x 
Sco . .  /. . . .  /  . . .  /
Wal . .  / . . . . /  . . . ./ 

key:
/ - still a chance
x - no chance
w - winner

Some neat symmetry on show, as it's Sco turn to fall away from the full bag:

Nat. . . GS . . 6N . . TC 
-----------------------------------
Eng . . .  / . . . . / . . . . / 
Fra  . . . x  . . .  / . . . . x 
Ire  . . .  x . . . . / . . . . x 
Ita . . .  x . . . . / . . . . x 
Sco . .  x. . . .  /  . . .  x
Wal . .  / . . . . /  . . . ./ 

Eng plan 'A' crumbles under pressure.
Only the Reds now can take all the spoils.

Nat. . . GS . . 6N . . TC 
-----------------------------------
Eng . . . x . . . . / . . . . x
Fra  . . . x  . . .  / . . . . x 
Ire  . . .  x . . . . / . . . . x 
Ita . . .  x . . . . / . . . . x 
Sco . .  x. . . .  /  . . .  x
Wal . .  / . . . . /  . . . ./ 

No Italian job for another year at least.
Sco need several miraculous outcomes to win the title now.

Nat. . . GS . . 6N . . TC 
-----------------------------------
Eng . . . x . . . . / . . . . x
Fra  . . . x  . . .  / . . . . x 
Ire  . . .  x . . . . / . . . . x 
Ita . . .  x . . . . x . . . . x 
Sco . .  x. . . .  /  . . .  x
Wal . .  / . . . . /  . . . ./ 

Down to 3 now..
Wal could get the GS & TC next weekend and stop Eng taking the big 6N prize on points difference.
(Correction as per Scrumhead note below)

Nat. . . GS . . 6N . . TC 
-----------------------------------
Eng . . . x . . . . / . . . . x
Fra  . . . x  . . .  x . . . . x 
Ire . . .  x . . . . / . . . . x 
Ita . . .  x . . . . x . . . . x
Sco . .  x. . . .  x  . . .  x
Wal . .  / . . . . /  . . . ./ 

note: Italy take the Wooden spoon

That’s not quite right. If you win the GS, you get extra BPs so it’s impossible not to win overall.

We need Ireland to do us a favour otherwise Wales would be the worst team to win a GS since our last one.

Scrumhead wrote:That’s not quite right. If you win the GS, you get extra BPs so it’s impossible not to win overall.

We need Ireland to do us a favour otherwise Wales would be the worst team to win a GS since our last one.

Quite right SH - this has been covered in the 6N BP rules:
'A Union that wins all five of its Matches (a “Grand Slam”) shall be awarded a further three Match Points.'
that I failed to notice on first check.
I somehow can't see Ire delivering this favour, though Eng should run out top points and try scorer this year, comfortably.

This Wales side is pretty poor IMO. Fair play to them for a strong second half and taking their chances against us, but I’d credit even an out of form Irish side with the tactical awareness to beat them next weekend.

Scrumhead wrote:This Wales side is pretty poor IMO. Fair play to them for a strong second half and taking their chances against us, but I’d credit even an out of form Irish side with the tactical awareness to beat them next weekend.

Wales are excellent in defence and kick reception; they also show they can retain the ball for many phases. I don't think pretty poor is fair, even if they aren't pretty! Their unbeaten run has a lot of good scalps in it. I do think a fit and firing Irish side should be winning, though the Cardiff factor is significant too.

They have a lot of middling players, who manage to produce telling contributions, and the side are generally good under pressure. We could do with some of that

The schedule next Sat works in Eng's favour a little -
if Ire win they still have an outside chance of the title.
If Eng had gone earlier or even concurrently then Ire may have possibly not gone full tilt.
Schmidt & Best say farewell to the 6N so this will add something.
Parisse also will give his last 6N showing in Rome.Irrespective of the outcome vs Fra, his team have claimed another wooden spoon.

Galfon wrote:The schedule next Sat works in Eng's favour a little -
if Ire win they still have an outside chance of the title.
If Eng had gone earlier or even concurrently then Ire may have possibly not gone full tilt.
Schmidt & Best say farewell to the 6N so this will add something.
Parisse also will give his last 6N showing in Rome.Irrespective of the outcome vs Fra, his team have claimed another wooden spoon.

I don't see a universe in which Ireland don't do their utmost to win the game once it kicks off. I wouldn't however be at all surprised to see a couple of selections that smack of trying out options. For the game itself England are so far ahead on points difference there's not any point on chasing it. We'll do no more than what we would have done anyway: try to get ahead and then as far away as we can by 80 minutes.

The title is a two horse race. With respect to Ireland, a hell of a lot needs to go their way to be in with a chance, both in their own game and in the Calcutta Cup. I fully expect Ireland to come at us 100%, why would they not? There may be one or two selection decisions made with the RWC in mind but I can’t see too many of those either.

Sandydragon wrote:The title is a two horse race. With respect to Ireland, a hell of a lot needs to go their way to be in with a chance, both in their own game and in the Calcutta Cup. I fully expect Ireland to come at us 100%, why would they not? There may be one or two selection decisions made with the RWC in mind but I can’t see too many of those either.

Totally agree. The atmosphere in Cardiff should be amazing! Can't wait!

All over - well done Wales, worthy winners.

Nat. . . GS . . 6N . . TC 
-----------------------------------
Eng . . . x . . . . x. . . . x
Fra  . . . x  . . .  x. . . . x 
Ire . . .   x . . . . x. . . . x 
Ita . . .   x . . . . x. . . . x
Sco. . .  x. . . .  x  . . . x
Wal. .w. . . . w . . . w

- Scotland retain the Calcutta Cup after thrilling draw.
- Italy take the Wooden spoon.

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Scrumhead wrote:This Wales side is pretty poor IMO. Fair play to them for a strong second half and taking their chances against us, but I’d credit even an out of form Irish side with the tactical awareness to beat them next weekend.

Can I mock this post now? Or should I wait till the sting of grabbing an undeserved draw at the last second against Scotland has dulled a little?