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John Mitchell
Just FYI, your defence coach’s son is currently debuting for the New Zealand cricket team.
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Re: John Mitchell
I can hardly contain my apathy.Lizard wrote:Just FYI, your defence coach’s son is currently debuting for the New Zealand cricket team.
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Re: John Mitchell
Oh come on. This is fascinating. First son of an All Black (non-tests only, admittedly) to play cricket for NZ (T20 only so far, admittedly).
I’m sure this will be a huge distraction and the English teams tremendous defence (based on being always offside, admittedly) May fade away this week.
I’m sure this will be a huge distraction and the English teams tremendous defence (based on being always offside, admittedly) May fade away this week.
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Re: John Mitchell
no idea where Mitchell got that idea from.Lizard wrote: (based on being always offside, admittedly)
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Really didn't look offside all that often to me. In fact, I'd be quite impressed if someone could give 3 examples of us being "clearly" offside from the match. Even more impressed if it was the 2m or so that some folks seem to be trying to claim.
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You're Enya and I claim my £5Lizard wrote: May fade away this week.
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There was a piece in yesterday's Times about the effect Mitchell and Wisemantel have had since coming in. It was an interesting read. I can quite easily see how new coaches can bring a fresh impetous to the same players, maybe this particular homeymoon period could turn out to be perfect timing in the now short run up to the WC?
Guatard was quoted as saying that in last year's 6N the "boys were knackered". They were being routinely flogged at the time, which resukted in poor displays. Obv this year they're not being tortured to the same degree. Et voila; a vibrant agressive cohesive performance. Who'd have thunk it?
Guatard was quoted as saying that in last year's 6N the "boys were knackered". They were being routinely flogged at the time, which resukted in poor displays. Obv this year they're not being tortured to the same degree. Et voila; a vibrant agressive cohesive performance. Who'd have thunk it?
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You've made Liz's evening!Raggs wrote:Really didn't look offside all that often to me. In fact, I'd be quite impressed if someone could give 3 examples of us being "clearly" offside from the match. Even more impressed if it was the 2m or so that some folks seem to be trying to claim.
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The Times also noted in essence Eddie has given up on the idea he should develop English coaches, other than Borthwick of courseBeasties wrote:There was a piece in yesterday's Times about the effect Mitchell and Wisemantel have had since coming in. It was an interesting read. I can quite easily see how new coaches can bring a fresh impetous to the same players, maybe this particular homeymoon period could turn out to be perfect timing in the now short run up to the WC?
Guatard was quoted as saying that in last year's 6N the "boys were knackered". They were being routinely flogged at the time, which resukted in poor displays. Obv this year they're not being tortured to the same degree. Et voila; a vibrant agressive cohesive performance. Who'd have thunk it?
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Re: John Mitchell
Tbf, Gustard and Teague both resigned, Farrell turned down a job offer and Sanderson made clear he wasn’t interested.
After that there aren’t many options. Worsley is going well at Bordeaux and I think King and Walder should’ve been of interest for the for the attack job but, one year out from the tournament, I’m not bothered if we just get best available.
After that there aren’t many options. Worsley is going well at Bordeaux and I think King and Walder should’ve been of interest for the for the attack job but, one year out from the tournament, I’m not bothered if we just get best available.
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Well, he kind of has...Gustard got more experience. Enough experience that he wanted an HC role. Which is good for England in the future.Digby wrote:The Times also noted in essence Eddie has given up on the idea he should develop English coaches, other than Borthwick of courseBeasties wrote:There was a piece in yesterday's Times about the effect Mitchell and Wisemantel have had since coming in. It was an interesting read. I can quite easily see how new coaches can bring a fresh impetous to the same players, maybe this particular homeymoon period could turn out to be perfect timing in the now short run up to the WC?
Guatard was quoted as saying that in last year's 6N the "boys were knackered". They were being routinely flogged at the time, which resukted in poor displays. Obv this year they're not being tortured to the same degree. Et voila; a vibrant agressive cohesive performance. Who'd have thunk it?
We could have some interesting options going forward. As mentioned, there's Worsley, Walder and King, plus Vesty, Catt, Farrell...plenty of coaches getting good experience elsewhere who could step up for England in the future.
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Re: John Mitchell
bowler, batsman or all rounder?
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Re: John Mitchell
I'm not saying Eddie should be developing English coaches, merely the RFU indicated he would be doing so, and now he mostly isn't
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Not hugely bothered. I'd like English coaches, but our aim right now should be the World Cup and for that we need the best available, not people with a load of potential.Digby wrote:The Times also noted in essence Eddie has given up on the idea he should develop English coaches, other than Borthwick of courseBeasties wrote:There was a piece in yesterday's Times about the effect Mitchell and Wisemantel have had since coming in. It was an interesting read. I can quite easily see how new coaches can bring a fresh impetous to the same players, maybe this particular homeymoon period could turn out to be perfect timing in the now short run up to the WC?
Guatard was quoted as saying that in last year's 6N the "boys were knackered". They were being routinely flogged at the time, which resukted in poor displays. Obv this year they're not being tortured to the same degree. Et voila; a vibrant agressive cohesive performance. Who'd have thunk it?
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Re: John Mitchell
Steve Diamond has said that England made an approach for Deacon at the end of last season.Mellsblue wrote:Tbf, Gustard and Teague both resigned, Farrell turned down a job offer and Sanderson made clear he wasn’t interested.
After that there aren’t many options. Worsley is going well at Bordeaux and I think King and Walder should’ve been of interest for the for the attack job but, one year out from the tournament, I’m not bothered if we just get best available.
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That confused me - I thought you meant Louis there for a minute.Timbo wrote:Steve Diamond has said that England made an approach for Deacon at the end of last season.Mellsblue wrote:Tbf, Gustard and Teague both resigned, Farrell turned down a job offer and Sanderson made clear he wasn’t interested.
After that there aren’t many options. Worsley is going well at Bordeaux and I think King and Walder should’ve been of interest for the for the attack job but, one year out from the tournament, I’m not bothered if we just get best available.
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Re: John Mitchell
All-rounder. He averages about 34 in both disciplines in proper (i.e. First Class) cricket. Last night he batted at 4, and was part way into his 3rd over when he dismissed the last Indian batsman. Looks like his old man but darker features and a beard.p/d wrote:bowler, batsman or all rounder?
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I didn’t say they were “clearly” off-side. That’s the genius of it.Banquo wrote:You've made Liz's evening!Raggs wrote:Really didn't look offside all that often to me. In fact, I'd be quite impressed if someone could give 3 examples of us being "clearly" offside from the match. Even more impressed if it was the 2m or so that some folks seem to be trying to claim.
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Re: John Mitchell
Slade looked offside for his first try and every time I look at it, it still looks dodgy:Raggs wrote:Really didn't look offside all that often to me. In fact, I'd be quite impressed if someone could give 3 examples of us being "clearly" offside from the match. Even more impressed if it was the 2m or so that some folks seem to be trying to claim.

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He's just very quick.WaspInWales wrote:Slade looked offside for his first try and every time I look at it, it still looks dodgy:Raggs wrote:Really didn't look offside all that often to me. In fact, I'd be quite impressed if someone could give 3 examples of us being "clearly" offside from the match. Even more impressed if it was the 2m or so that some folks seem to be trying to claim.
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Quite right, my apologies. In that case allow me to change my challenge to suit your actual claim.Lizard wrote:I didn’t say they were “clearly” off-side. That’s the genius of it.Banquo wrote:You've made Liz's evening!Raggs wrote:Really didn't look offside all that often to me. In fact, I'd be quite impressed if someone could give 3 examples of us being "clearly" offside from the match. Even more impressed if it was the 2m or so that some folks seem to be trying to claim.
Please provide evidence of England being offside 136 times ("always"). My ruck marks have the times of all the Irish rucks to help.
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Liz is ‘clearly’ fishingRaggs wrote:Quite right, my apologies. In that case allow me to change my challenge to suit your actual claim.Lizard wrote:I didn’t say they were “clearly” off-side. That’s the genius of it.Banquo wrote: You've made Liz's evening!
Please provide evidence of England being offside 136 times ("always"). My ruck marks have the times of all the Irish rucks to help.
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Re: John Mitchell
I wanted to see if I could get him to do something! For the sake of a few lines of typing it's worth a try. Little chance of that now.