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Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:34 pm
by Big D
So, 6N out the way what are the predictions for the world cup squad.

Assume 31 man as per last one.
17 forwards:
Hooker: Rambo, Brown, Turner
Props: Dell, Nel, Berghan, Reid, Fagerson (although they might go for someone who can play LHP too).
2nd row: GG, Toolis, JGray, Skinner (I do think RGray will force himself into the discussion)
Back row: Watson, Ritchie, Bradbury, Barclay, Wilson

14 Backs:
9: Price, Horne, Laidlaw
10: Finn, Hastings
Centre: Johnson, Jones, Horne, Taylor/Scott (depending on fitness)
Back 3: Mailtand, Graham, Hogg, Kinghorn (if fit), Seymour

Re: RE: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:58 pm
by Adder
Big D wrote:So, 6N out the way what are the predictions for the world cup squad.

Assume 31 man as per last one.
17 forwards:
Hooker: Rambo, Brown, Turner
Props: Dell, Nel, Berghan, Reid, Fagerson (although they might go for someone who can play LHP too).
2nd row: GG, Toolis, JGray, Skinner (I do think RGray will force himself into the discussion)
Back row: Watson, Ritchie, Bradbury, Barclay, Wilson

14 Backs:
9: Price, Horne, Price
10: Finn, Hastings
Centre: Johnson, Jones, Horne, Taylor/Scott (depending on fitness)
Back 3: Mailtand, Graham, Hogg, Kinghorn (if fit), Seymour
Price, Horne, price?

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Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:55 pm
by Big D
Changed to Laidlaw.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:39 pm
by Chunks Baws
I wonder if Blade Thomson will recover and get enough games to impress. If he does we may see another Hardie 2015 situation with people losing their shit if he goes ahead of Bradbury or Wilson.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:24 pm
by Big D
Chunks Baws wrote:I wonder if Blade Thomson will recover and get enough games to impress. If he does we may see another Hardie 2015 situation with people losing their shit if he goes ahead of Bradbury or Wilson.
I think he is going to be capped in the warm ups with fit but going to be hard to dislodge Bradbury and Wilson based on them playing pretty well in the 6N.

I was pretty impressed with Bradbury off the base v England. Two or three times he picked and made good ground. We don't see that a lot from the others. Maybe it is because he is quicker than the others.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:40 pm
by Mikey Brown
There’s perhaps more to be said of the effect of Wilson’s abscence than anything specific he does in the pitch. I like the idea of having him in the squad but still don’t think he’s really good enough. Strauss is in for me at the moment as Bradbury is the only other who can make those sort of dents.

I’d like Thomson to at least push Wilson/Strauss to have to show some real form to make it.

I don’t like to say but I don’t think Duncan Taylor is in the discussion. I’d be surprised to see him play again.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:45 pm
by switchskier
I'm going to keep banging the Hutchinson drum for a centre slot as a bolter. Think that Taylor isn't in the conversation sadly.

Think Strauss is still in the mix too. Think he offers a point of difference that you don't get if all of Ritchie, Watson and Barclay travel.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:56 pm
by Tobylerone
A NZ based scrum half in this mix...?

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:58 pm
by Mikey Brown
Also a shame GT has not bothered to look at Ashe at all. Guess that ship has sailed.

I think Hutchinson looks great. But GT has willingly persisted with Grigg/Harris while he’s been available and bang in form.

Can’t see the warmups being time to bed in any new players at all except perhaps a Kiwi saviour.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:32 pm
by Big D
Mikey Brown wrote:Also a shame GT has not bothered to look at Ashe at all. Guess that ship has sailed.

I think Hutchinson looks great. But GT has willingly persisted with Grigg/Harris while he’s been available and bang in form.

Can’t see the warmups being time to bed in any new players at all except perhaps a Kiwi saviour.
Hutchinson has only just started starting regularly though hasn't he?

He and McDowall are definite long shot bolters. Someone elsewhere mentioned Lang too who appears to be starting regularly.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:34 pm
by Big D
Tobylerone wrote:A NZ based scrum half in this mix...?
Not sure. Townsend hasn't mentioned him at all IIRC.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:34 pm
by whatisthejava
Problem with Ashe is he is a bit of a weathervane, if Glasgow is playing well Ashe does, when weeg turned to shit so did Ashe.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:47 pm
by Mikey Brown
Big D wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:Also a shame GT has not bothered to look at Ashe at all. Guess that ship has sailed.

I think Hutchinson looks great. But GT has willingly persisted with Grigg/Harris while he’s been available and bang in form.

Can’t see the warmups being time to bed in any new players at all except perhaps a Kiwi saviour.
Hutchinson has only just started starting regularly though hasn't he?

He and McDowall are definite long shot bolters. Someone elsewhere mentioned Lang too who appears to be starting regularly.
Yeah I guess it's mostly coincided with the 6 nations, but he's been on the radar (presumably) for a little while. You'd think if GT was wanting to look at bolters at all he'd have taken the chance when Dunbar, Taylor, Scott, Jones were all out injured.

I know that realistically it's too soon but I would have loved to see McDowall get a run out.

I like that weathervane metaphor. Not heard that one before. Now you've said it, it sounds like it might be kind of fitting for Ashe. He's got something for sure but maybe it's not meant to be. I think we should have found out for certain a bit sooner, but his injuries made that pretty difficult.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:18 am
by General Zod
Does Oli Kebble qualify for the World Cup squad after the opening game? Just a thought...

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:38 am
by OptimisticJock
Was there not something similar to this last time? Doesn't he have to be qualified to be picked in the initial squad?

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:52 am
by General Zod
OptimisticJock wrote:Was there not something similar to this last time? Doesn't he have to be qualified to be picked in the initial squad?
Hmmm. I want to say it was Josh Strauss, but don’t have time to check right now as I’m on the tee in about 20 minutes!

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:40 am
by Cameo
That squad at the top is actually a very good squad. 31 seems small if you have everyone fit

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:41 am
by Chunks Baws
General Zod wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:Was there not something similar to this last time? Doesn't he have to be qualified to be picked in the initial squad?
Hmmm. I want to say it was Josh Strauss, but don’t have time to check right now as I’m on the tee in about 20 minutes!
Strauss qualified 3 days before our first pool game.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:26 pm
by General Zod
Chunks Baws wrote:
General Zod wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:Was there not something similar to this last time? Doesn't he have to be qualified to be picked in the initial squad?
Hmmm. I want to say it was Josh Strauss, but don’t have time to check right now as I’m on the tee in about 20 minutes!
Strauss qualified 3 days before our first pool game.
Cool. So Kebble could be named in the squad then? If my earlier assumption is correct!

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:21 pm
by ARM
General Zod wrote:
Chunks Baws wrote:
General Zod wrote:
Hmmm. I want to say it was Josh Strauss, but don’t have time to check right now as I’m on the tee in about 20 minutes!
Strauss qualified 3 days before our first pool game.
Cool. So Kebble could be named in the squad then? If my earlier assumption is correct!
Kebble didn’t pitch up until 2017 so you’re a year out I think.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:02 pm
by General Zod
Ah. Getting my tournaments confused. I knew there was something like that in the pipeline tho. According to Wikipedia, he signed on 15/2/2017, which means he is available to make his debut in Rome on 22/2/20.

I’d imagine he’d be in the squad - lots of rugby between now and then, though.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:59 pm
by Big D
General Zod wrote:Ah. Getting my tournaments confused. I knew there was something like that in the pipeline tho. According to Wikipedia, he signed on 15/2/2017, which means he is available to make his debut in Rome on 22/2/20.

I’d imagine he’d be in the squad - lots of rugby between now and then, though.
He didn't pitch up til summer 2017 iirc.

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:33 pm
by Chunks Baws
Having a peek on social media and Kyle Steyn looks to be the early tip for a WC bolter. Is he playing at 13 for Glasgow?

The Scotsman have done a piece on him too;

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-un ... -1-4895495

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:49 am
by whatisthejava
Denton out for season with concusion

If he doesnt make the wc that would be 11 months out with concussion

WR really are dancing on a very dangerous ledge when they let high shots go unpunished

Re: Way too early RWC Squad

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:00 am
by Mikey Brown
I hadn't realised that was the issue. Do you know for sure it was a high shot or are you talking more generally?