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Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:48 am
by Mikey Brown
Team announced at 12:45. Nice of them to at least tell us when it's happening.


Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:54 am
by General Zod
If the English are les rosbifs, what are the scots? Or do we not merit a nickname?

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:22 am
by Tobylerone
General Zod wrote:If the English are les rosbifs, what are the scots? Or do we not merit a nickname?
Les Boudins Blanc..?

Les Petit Lourds..?

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:35 am
by Big D
General Zod wrote:If the English are les rosbifs, what are the scots? Or do we not merit a nickname?
Le Shitebags

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:48 am
by francoisfou
Les chardons bleus.

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:29 am
by General Zod
Tobylerone wrote:
Les Boudins Blanc..?
Hmmm, I do like les boudins blanc, even if it sounds more Bavarian to me. Indeed, there is a French connection to the Bavarian Weißwurst, as it is rumoured its popularity kicked off when napoleon came to town.

Yes, I think that it could be a wiener - sorry, winner - also partly due to Ellis Genge referencing sausages at Murrayfield t’other week.

And sausages can’t catch or pass. And they tend to break down when playing heads up rugby.

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:36 pm
by francoisfou
French team more or less as expected. The only changes are Jefferson Poirot (a fine name!) replaces Cyrill Baille in the front row and Penaud on the wing.

Le XV de départ des Bleus : 15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Vakatawa, 12. Vincent, 11. Fickou ; 10. Ntamack, 9. Dupont ; 7. Ollivon (cap), 8. Alldritt, 6. Cros ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Haouas, 2. Marchand, 1. Poirot

Les remplaçants : 16. Chat, 17. Gros, 18. Bamba, 19. Taofifenua, 20. Cretin, 21. Serin, 22. Jalibert, 23. Ramos.

We surely can't lose on Sunday, can we?

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:41 pm
by Mikey Brown
Penaud back in for Thomas right? That's definitely not good for us.

Cyrill Baille is a pretty great name too to be honest. Nothing will ever come close to being called Cretin though.

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:46 pm
by Mikey Brown

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:48 pm
by Mikey Brown
Ah well. I guess making something of Hutchinson was a nice idea while it lasted.

Gilchrist suddenly better than Toolis again. Good to see Skinner but a shame Fagerson doesn't get another shot.

I'm curious at what point we would need to use Duncan Weir other than injury, even if he's playing well enough at club level.

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:02 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Not really sure what more G Horne is meant to do here.

Chasing the game after a couple of Ali clangers is the likely tale...

Will be surreal seeing Weir play for Scotland again.

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:11 pm
by francoisfou
Mikey Brown wrote:
For those whose eyes aren't what they used to be, here's the Scots' team:

Scotland XV to face France
Hogg (captain); Maitland, Harris, Johnson, Kinghorn; Hastings, Price; Sutherland, Brown, Z Fagerson; Cummings; Gilchrist, Ritchie, Watson, Haining.

Replacements: McInally, Dell, Nel, Skinner, Bradbury, G Horne, Weir, Steyn

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:17 pm
by Still septic
francoisfou wrote:French team more or less as expected. The only changes are Jefferson Poirot (a fine name!) replaces Cyrill Baille in the front row and Penaud on the wing.

Le XV de départ des Bleus : 15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Vakatawa, 12. Vincent, 11. Fickou ; 10. Ntamack, 9. Dupont ; 7. Ollivon (cap), 8. Alldritt, 6. Cros ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Haouas, 2. Marchand, 1. Poirot

Les remplaçants : 16. Chat, 17. Gros, 18. Bamba, 19. Taofifenua, 20. Cretin, 21. Serin, 22. Jalibert, 23. Ramos.

We surely can't lose on Sunday, can we?
Bonjour! Ca va?

J'aime Marchand mais Chat est an joueur tres fort, superior.
Et Poirot, aussi Bamba n'aime pas le melee. Piliers francais qui n'aime pas le mêlé!!!

Bon chance. Un peu :D :D

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:23 pm
by Still septic
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Not really sure what more G Horne is meant to do here.
Manage the game better than Price. It's a 23 man squad and starting and finishing is all part of the 23.

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:27 pm
by Still septic
Struggling to see why we have dropped Toolis, the only dedicated tight head lock, for here's a stupid penalty machine Gilchrist. I get Haining for the disappearing man Bradbury but not Bradbury over workaholic Fagerson whose stats recently are just ridiculous.

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:35 pm
by francoisfou
Still septic wrote:
francoisfou wrote:French team more or less as expected. The only changes are Jefferson Poirot (a fine name!) replaces Cyrill Baille in the front row and Penaud on the wing.

Le XV de départ des Bleus : 15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Vakatawa, 12. Vincent, 11. Fickou ; 10. Ntamack, 9. Dupont ; 7. Ollivon (cap), 8. Alldritt, 6. Cros ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Haouas, 2. Marchand, 1. Poirot

Les remplaçants : 16. Chat, 17. Gros, 18. Bamba, 19. Taofifenua, 20. Cretin, 21. Serin, 22. Jalibert, 23. Ramos.

We surely can't lose on Sunday, can we?
Bonjour! Ca va?

J'aime Marchand mais Chat est an joueur tres fort, superior.
Et Poirot, aussi Bamba n'aime pas le melee. Piliers francais qui n'aime pas le mêlé!!!

Bon chance. Un peu :D :D
Bonjour, Ss. Oui, ça va très bien, merci! Marchand est un talonneur exceptionnel, rapide et il a des bonnes mains. Par contre, Chat est extrêmement physique et adore la confrontation. Tous les deux seront les talonneurs principaux pendant longtemps. Now in English! Yes, there may just be a question mark about the props’ scrummaging if the opposition are wily enough. Do you really think your props can get the upper hand?

Re: RE: Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:43 pm
by Adder
francoisfou wrote:
Still septic wrote:
francoisfou wrote:French team more or less as expected. The only changes are Jefferson Poirot (a fine name!) replaces Cyrill Baille in the front row and Penaud on the wing.

Le XV de départ des Bleus : 15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Vakatawa, 12. Vincent, 11. Fickou ; 10. Ntamack, 9. Dupont ; 7. Ollivon (cap), 8. Alldritt, 6. Cros ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Haouas, 2. Marchand, 1. Poirot

Les remplaçants : 16. Chat, 17. Gros, 18. Bamba, 19. Taofifenua, 20. Cretin, 21. Serin, 22. Jalibert, 23. Ramos.

We surely can't lose on Sunday, can we?
Bonjour! Ca va?

J'aime Marchand mais Chat est an joueur tres fort, superior.
Et Poirot, aussi Bamba n'aime pas le melee. Piliers francais qui n'aime pas le mêlé!!!

Bon chance. Un peu :D :D
Bonjour, Ss. Oui, ça va très bien, merci! Marchand est un talonneur exceptionnel, rapide et il a des bonnes mains. Par contre, Chat est extrêmement physique et adore la confrontation. Tous les deux seront les talonneurs principaux pendant longtemps. Now in English! Yes, there may just be a question mark about the props’ scrummaging if the opposition are wily enough. Do you really think your props can get the upper hand?


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Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:50 pm
by tigran
Les panses de brebis... Scots... les kilts...

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:02 pm
by ARM
Still septic wrote:Struggling to see why we have dropped Toolis, the only dedicated tight head lock, for here's a stupid penalty machine Gilchrist. I get Haining for the disappearing man Bradbury but not Bradbury over workaholic Fagerson whose stats recently are just ridiculous.
I also thought we would keep Toolis as the TH lock, but I have to say he doesn’t really deserve it. If ever there is a journeyman, he’s it. Bit of a cap thief - has never had a standout game at Test level.

I really enjoy watching Fagerson (M) play for Weeg but he does get overpowered a bit in Tests. Got ragdolled by the Italians two weeks ago.

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:50 pm
by Mikey Brown
He got thrown off by Polledri, who is easily one of the most powerful carriers in the world. Other than that I remember a few collisions that were just a stalemate. I don’t recall him getting the ball in any decent position to make an impact. Did I miss something?

I don’t think he’s brought his best to Scotland yet, but his club form is so vastly superior to anyone else’s I feel like it would be worth investing in. GT’s man management still concerns me slightly.

What is happening in training to mean some guys yo-yo in and out of the team all the time (Toolis being the prime example- is he meant to be our best scrummager because I’d have thought we’d want that vs France?), while others are limited to cameo bench appearances and then dropped.

For instance I’d love to know if Hutchinson had some sort of specific instruction when he came on vs Italy. He threw a bunch of pointless miss passes and just looked desperate to make a game-changing play.

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:31 pm
by Tobylerone
General Zod wrote:
Tobylerone wrote:
Les Boudins Blanc..?
Hmmm, I do like les boudins blanc, even if it sounds more Bavarian to me. Indeed, there is a French connection to the Bavarian Weißwurst, as it is rumoured its popularity kicked off when napoleon came to town.

Yes, I think that it could be a wiener - sorry, winner - also partly due to Ellis Genge referencing sausages at Murrayfield t’other week.

And sausages can’t catch or pass. And they tend to break down when playing heads up rugby.
White Puddings..
Shame that "The Deep Fried Mars Bars" doesn`t Franglais very well.

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:54 pm
by francoisfou
Tobylerone wrote:
General Zod wrote:
Tobylerone wrote:
Les Boudins Blanc..?
Hmmm, I do like les boudins blanc, even if it sounds more Bavarian to me. Indeed, there is a French connection to the Bavarian Weißwurst, as it is rumoured its popularity kicked off when napoleon came to town.

Yes, I think that it could be a wiener - sorry, winner - also partly due to Ellis Genge referencing sausages at Murrayfield t’other week.

And sausages can’t catch or pass. And they tend to break down when playing heads up rugby.
White Puddings..
Shame that "The Deep Fried Mars Bars" doesn`t Franglais very well.
Arbroath smokies! Ye cannae get mair Scottish than this :

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:06 pm
by Cameo
Slightly unexpected changes. I agree Toolis is a bit average so we need to move on but as MB says it does feel like we yo-yo a bit randomly. McInally was not bad last time out and Haining hasn't been special in the last two Edinburgh games (whereas Crosbie has). Hutchinson may have gone off the boil a little but he has been given a strange role and hasn't done anything wrong.

Happy for Steyn though. He is showing signs of becoming a quality finisher.

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:29 am
by Big D

Re: Scotland vs France

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:32 am
by Big D
Cameo wrote:Slightly unexpected changes. I agree Toolis is a bit average so we need to move on but as MB says it does feel like we yo-yo a bit randomly. McInally was not bad last time out and Haining hasn't been special in the last two Edinburgh games (whereas Crosbie has). Hutchinson may have gone off the boil a little but he has been given a strange role and hasn't done anything wrong.

Happy for Steyn though. He is showing signs of becoming a quality finisher.
Steyn is a decent club player but I don't see him having it at the top level.