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Must admit I thought it had been canned for 2020?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53667495

Banquo wrote:Must admit I thought it had been canned for 2020?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53667495

Not only is it not canned, it's going to basically be played twice.

Puja

Puja wrote:

Banquo wrote:Must admit I thought it had been canned for 2020?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53667495

Not only is it not canned, it's going to basically be played twice.

Puja

true.

Spooky.

I think there needs to be real concern about player welfare in the next year or two. In the DT today, there is an article stating that of the 41 Lions tourists in 2017, 19 had sustained serious injury by Christmas and two were forced to retire. That was on the back of a 'normal' season.

Yes, the game generally, has suffered severe financial issues as a result of covid-19, but there has to be a long-term, sustainable policy in the recovery period. The RFU might bitterly regret injuring players by involving them in too many games. It is time for a strictly applied game-maximum rule and standard downtime sessions (e.g. continuous 2 months in every 12).

Oakboy wrote:I think there needs to be real concern about player welfare in the next year or two. In the DT today, there is an article stating that of the 41 Lions tourists in 2017, 19 had sustained serious injury by Christmas and two were forced to retire. That was on the back of a 'normal' season.

Yes, the game generally, has suffered severe financial issues as a result of covid-19, but there has to be a long-term, sustainable policy in the recovery period. The RFU might bitterly regret injuring players by involving them in too many games. It is time for a strictly applied game-maximum rule and standard downtime sessions (e.g. continuous 2 months in every 12).

I guess based on an independent article back then. Not 19 serious injuries, 19 injuries, including Billy V, injured before and after the Lions and didn’t actually make the plane, and Itoje, who broke his jaw...

Was his injury a freak one? Yes given the circumstances of an unfortunate collision with Harlequins’ Mike Brown. But was it avoidable? Definitely .

Yes, I do have misgivings, but you’d also expect to see more injuries for players at the top level in such a physical sport.

If they broke it down, that’d be different. More muscle injuries means more wear and tear. More broken jaws or arms, they might not be statistically significantly more than normal, just feeds our pre existing picture.

If you told a DoR that they’d have 19 injured players over the course of a season out of a 41 man squad, they’d shrug their shoulders and just think it was a standard season.
Iirc, on average a third of a Prem squad will be carrying an injury at any given time.....

Mellsblue wrote:If you told a DoR that they’d have 19 injured players over the course of a season out of a 41 man squad, they’d shrug their shoulders and just think it was a standard season.
Iirc, on average a third of a Prem squad will be carrying an injury at any given time.....

Last stats I have were 60 injuries per club per season. 1.8 per match. Averaging 37 days injured per injury.

So you can expect thousands of fans to be traveling back and forth between the UK, Ireland, and mainland Europe...


that should go well.

Mellsblue wrote:If you told a DoR that they’d have 19 injured players over the course of a season out of a 41 man squad, they’d shrug their shoulders and just think it was a standard season.
Iirc, on average a third of a Prem squad will be carrying an injury at any given time.....

Does 19 in a 3rd of a season not seem excessive, though? That's more or less what the article is saying. Lions tourists start late so by Christmas they have played about a 3rd of the games they might expect to play, perhaps?

Oakboy wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:If you told a DoR that they’d have 19 injured players over the course of a season out of a 41 man squad, they’d shrug their shoulders and just think it was a standard season.
Iirc, on average a third of a Prem squad will be carrying an injury at any given time.....

Does 19 in a 3rd of a season not seem excessive, though? That's more or less what the article is saying. Lions tourists start late so by Christmas they have played about a 3rd of the games they might expect to play, perhaps?

No, especially when you break down the actual injuries and the small sample size.

60 injuries over a season on average for a club, so that's equal to 20 for 1/3rd a season. Seems pretty normal.