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Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:57 pm
by fivepointer
Racing 92: Zebo; Thomas, Vakatawa, Klemenczak, Imhoff; Russell, Iribaren (c); Ben Arous, Chat, Colombe, Bird, Ryan, Lauret, Sanconnie, Claassen
Replacements: Baubigny, Kolingar, Oz, Palu, Chouzenoux, Machenaud, Gibert, Trinh-Duc
Saracens: Daly; Lewington, Taylor, Barritt (c), Maitland; Goode, Wigglesworth; M Vunipola, George, Koch; Itoje, Swinson; Rhodes, Wray, B Vunipola.
Replacements: Woolstencroft, Barrington, Clarey, Hunter-Hill, Clark, Davies, M Vunipola, Morris.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:49 pm
by Puja
It's been a brave effort from Saracens, but it's hard to see them going further than this. The likes of Lewington, Taylor, Wigglesworth, Swinson, Rhodes, and Wray are just not good enough (at this stage in their careers for some of them) to take on this Racing side. One or two of them, maybe, but a team containing 6 of them just won't have the quality needed.
Mind, Saracens do play their systems incredibly well and they do often come up to more than the sum of their parts, so I hope to be wrong.
Puja
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:30 pm
by paddy no 11
They still have a stronger pack than racing which is where games are won
A lot depends on whether zebo and thomas phone it in or play to their ability
Chat is some operator
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:13 pm
by Mellsblue
Chat is superb. Sarries’ bench is beyond weak.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:28 am
by fivepointer
Puja wrote:It's been a brave effort from Saracens, but it's hard to see them going further than this. The likes of Lewington, Taylor, Wigglesworth, Swinson, Rhodes, and Wray are just not good enough (at this stage in their careers for some of them) to take on this Racing side. One or two of them, maybe, but a team containing 6 of them just won't have the quality needed.
Mind, Saracens do play their systems incredibly well and they do often come up to more than the sum of their parts, so I hope to be wrong.
Puja
I thought that last week......
Suspect Racing will be a step too far.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:34 am
by Timbo
Particularly with Le Roux out I’d still say Sarries starting pack is a bit better than Racings.
With the players Sarries have lost and with their weaker bench I don’t think they can win a looser game, so it’ll be dependant on whether Sarries can control the tempo and make it a scrap. Problem is I don’t think I’ve ever seen a slow game on that pitch, in that stadium.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:26 pm
by Digby
Owens is still good comedy value
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:29 pm
by Mellsblue
He’s pinged a failure to use it. He can get every other decision wrong and I’ll still claim he had a good game.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:29 pm
by FKAS
Digby wrote:Owens is still good comedy value
I thought some of his ruck decisions weren't the best so far, however, penalising the scrum half for being too slow at the breakdown means all is forgiven. So refreshing to see a ref use that and he completely right to do so.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:30 pm
by loudnconfident
Digby wrote:Owens is still good comedy value
Kudos to him though for pinging the slow "use it"!
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:31 pm
by loudnconfident
FKAS wrote:Digby wrote:Owens is still good comedy value
I thought some of his ruck decisions weren't the best so far, however, penalising the scrum half for being too slow at the breakdown means all is forgiven. So refreshing to see a ref use that and he completely right to do so.
Indeed. First time I've seen that and Owens had called use it multiple times
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:37 pm
by Mellsblue
Superb from Maitland.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:41 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Saracens doing well to impose their sort of game. Very stop start.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:44 pm
by Mellsblue
My thoughts on the fourth official’s top knot are the complete opposite to my thoughts on Owens pinging for a failure to use it.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:48 pm
by francoisfou
Digby wrote:Owens is still good comedy value
Did I hear him speak a few words of French?
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:08 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Why’s that not a yellow? Goes one handed and stops the attack. Always thought that a likely yellow.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:17 pm
by loudnconfident
Super tackle
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:19 pm
by loudnconfident
Is the sarries scrum that good? Leinster and now Racing..
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:27 pm
by Banquo
So much off the ball being missed.
Lewington butchered that a bit
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:27 pm
by Mikey Brown
loudnconfident wrote:Is the sarries scrum that good? Leinster and now Racing..
Tim Swinson. I’m telling you.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:30 pm
by Banquo
Epaminondas Pules wrote:Why’s that not a yellow? Goes one handed and stops the attack. Always thought that a likely yellow.
Yep.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:30 pm
by Mr Mwenda
This game is taking an awfully long time.
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:35 pm
by Banquo
Barritt out would be a huge blow
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:41 pm
by Banquo
Daft pens by Sarries - pressure
Re: Racing v Saracens Sat 1pm
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:46 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Barritt off, Racing find a hole...