RugbyRebels

Bristol:
15. Rich Lane (0 apps); 14. Alapati Leiua (95 apps), 13. Semi Radradra (33 apps), 12. Antoine Frisch (8 apps), 11. Henry Purdy (37 apps); 10. Callum Sheedy (123 apps), 9. Max Green (0 apps); 1. Yann Thomas (85 apps), 2. Bryan Byrne (26 apps), 3. Jake Armstrong (25 apps), 4. Dave Attwood (68 apps), 5. Chris Vui (85 apps), 6. Steven Luatua (c) (92 apps), 7. Sam Jeffries (45 apps), 8. Fitz Harding (24 apps).

Subs: 16. Jake Kerr (15 apps), 17. Ashley Challenger (5 apps), 18. John Afoa (79 apps), 19. Joe Joyce (142 apps), 20. Jake Heenan (66 apps), 21. Theo Strang (6 apps), 22. Tiff Eden (18 apps), 23. Piers O’Conor (99 apps).

Unavailable: Harry Thacker, Kyle Sinckler, Jake Woolmore, Max Lahiff, Harry Randall, Andy Uren, Tom Whiteley, Toby Venner, Oscar Lennon, Sam Bedlow, Toby Fricker, Charles Piutau, Luke Morahan, Charlie Powell, Ioan Lloyd.

Quins:
Harlequins Starting XV
1. Simon Kerrod, 2. Jack Walker, 3. Will Collier, 4. Matt Symons, 5. Hugh Tizard, 6. Stephan Lewies - Captain, 7. Tom Lawday, 8. Archie White
9. Danny Care, 10. Will Edwards, 11. Oscar Beard, 12. Andre Esterhuizen, 13. Huw Jones, 14. Cadan Murley, 15. Tyrone Green

Impact Players
16. Sam Riley, 17. Santiago Garcia Botta, 18. Wilco Louw, 19. George Hammond, 20. Luke Wallace, 21. Scott Steele, 22. Luke Northmore
23. Louis Lynagh

Both sides weakened by loses in key positions, but Bristol still short their first 5 no9s and 3 15's. alighter pack than last week with Vui into second row giving less grunt but more speed around the pitch. Given recent history Bris will open up a 20 point lead and lose by 2.

RICH LANE!!!!!

Could be a good game. Bristol vs. Quins usually is. An away win for Quins would be a big result given our run-in.

Shame Northmore and lynagh have fallen down the pecking order, ditto Piers O'Connor

Banquo wrote:Shame Northmore and lynagh have fallen down the pecking order, ditto Piers O'Connor

I think this is more a case of Frisch getting a chance to show he can cut it to be honest. P'OC is also pretty good bench cover as he can play 11/12/13/14 and 15, where as Frisch just covers 10/12.

jimKRFC wrote:

Banquo wrote:Shame Northmore and lynagh have fallen down the pecking order, ditto Piers O'Connor

I think this is more a case of Frisch getting a chance to show he can cut it to be honest. P'OC is also pretty good bench cover as he can play 11/12/13/14 and 15, where as Frisch just covers 10/12.

Fair enough.

Banquo wrote:Shame Northmore and lynagh have fallen down the pecking order, ditto Piers O'Connor

They haven’t fallen down the pecking order as such. Lynagh’s had a few injury issues recently and had had covid this week.

Jones got a chance because of Northmore’s England call but had done well so is now in the side on form.

Beard, Murley and Lynagh are all damn good young wingers tbf, and with Lynagh coming back from Eng training he might be a little fatigued. More of an embarrassment of riches than anyone being shunned imo

Eta: and the covid thing as Scrumhead mentioned. That passed me by

Danno wrote:Beard, Murley and Lynagh are all damn good young wingers tbf, and with Lynagh coming back from Eng training he might be a little fatigued. More of an embarrassment of riches than anyone being shunned imo

Eta: and the covid thing as Scrumhead mentioned. That passed me by

Plus poor Nick David, who's barely had a look-in after moving there.

Puja

Puja wrote:

Danno wrote:Beard, Murley and Lynagh are all damn good young wingers tbf, and with Lynagh coming back from Eng training he might be a little fatigued. More of an embarrassment of riches than anyone being shunned imo

Eta: and the covid thing as Scrumhead mentioned. That passed me by

Plus poor Nick David, who's barely had a look-in after moving there.

Puja

Yeah...

And Allan, after moving to be available while Smith was away is...unavailable while Smith is away.

What's happened to Gjaltema?

And is there any word on any of the backrow injuries?

Scrumhead wrote:

Banquo wrote:Shame Northmore and lynagh have fallen down the pecking order, ditto Piers O'Connor

They haven’t fallen down the pecking order as such. Lynagh’s had a few injury issues recently and had had covid this week.

Jones got a chance because of Northmore’s England call but had done well so is now in the side on form.

They’ve all fallen behind Rich Lane even if they’re at a different club. #goldingtonrdfinishingschool etc etc

Stom wrote:

Puja wrote:

Danno wrote:Beard, Murley and Lynagh are all damn good young wingers tbf, and with Lynagh coming back from Eng training he might be a little fatigued. More of an embarrassment of riches than anyone being shunned imo

Eta: and the covid thing as Scrumhead mentioned. That passed me by

Plus poor Nick David, who's barely had a look-in after moving there.

Puja

Yeah...

And Allan, after moving to be available while Smith was away is...unavailable while Smith is away.

What's happened to Gjaltema?

And is there any word on any of the backrow injuries?

Allan is usually first choice if Smith is out, so I assume he's injured again. We seem to be adopting a bit of a Leicester approach

Thats a good win for Quins. Bris struggling. Injuries have hit them hard but they seem to have lost the knack of defending.

Bit of a contentious one really.

Care, laying on the floor, held onto a players writs so he couldn't pass to a player with a walk in try going begging - only got yellow, but if Care had touched the ball it would have a penalty try. Care also deliberately knocked the ball forwards, out of ruck, that Quins gathered up and scored a try from. It should be a 2nd yellow, Care off the pitch and a Bristol penalty... Care also got away with another deliberate slap down on a Bris attack.

Still should have been able to close it out though - Bristol are just playing stupidly at the moment and the injuries at 9 are killing us as Strang is proving not up to the level but we've no-one else to play there.

It also seemed the quins players shoulder hit Fitz in the head (Fitz the tackler), so a poor technique, but a rugby incident and not sure how Fitz got yellow for it... The damage to the quins player was his teammate kicking him in the head on the floor.

Damn it.. just seen that Luatua has dislocated his wrist and Jefferies has done his knee (that kept him out for two years) so now we struggling in the back row as well as at 9.

I didn't catch the full game and only saw the highlights. Bristol must absolutely hate playing us right now. Mentally it must be so difficult to ever build any confidence.

I've been wondering recently is there actually an English winger playing better than Murley at the moment? I really rate him, though noticed he came off at about 47 minutes so I'm sure I didn't get the full picture. Our substitutions are bizarre at the best of times, particularly taking off whichever winger is performing best at the time, but I may have missed some mistakes or an injury that had him come off so early.

Apparently, we base a lot of our substitutions on the data from the mouthguards. If a player has had too many impacts, they quite often get subbed. That seems to be the way with Murley anyway (he quite often gets subbed early).

Picking up a BP win against Bristol is a good result made a lot better by Exeter, Irish and Gloucester losing.

That’s really interesting actually, I hadn’t considered that.

I wonder how linear the correlation between general involvements and impacts is. I’d assume if you happen to be getting the ball a lot more (or action on your side of the pitch) then you’ll naturally be involved in more impacts. I’m sure it goes much deeper than that though, and it’s great that they’re using this tech to proactively/pre-emotively look out for the players.

It makes a lot of sense, as the number of times Murley or Lynagh have been on for a hat-trick and get subbed just seems like a cruel joke.