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What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:47 am
by cashead
All Blacks
1. George Bower (Crusaders)
2. Codie Taylor (Crusaders)
3. Ofa Tu'ungafasi (Blues)
4. Brodie Retallick (Chiefs)
5. Sam Whitelock (Crusaders)
6. Scott Barrett (Crusaders)
7. Sam Cane (Captain, Chiefs)
8. Ardie Savea (Hurricanes)
9. Aaron Smith (Highlanders)
10. Beauden Barrett (Blues)
11. Leicester Fainga'anuku (Crusaders)
12. Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
13. Rieko Ioane (Blues)
14. Sevu Reece (Crusaders)
15. Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)

16. Samisoni Taukei'aho (Chiefs)
17. Karl Tu'unukuafe (Blues)
18. Angus Ta'avao (Chiefs)
19. Pita Gus Sowakula (Chiefs)
20. Dalton Papali'i (Blues)
21. Finlay Christie (Blues)
22. Richie Mo'unga (Crusaders)
23. Braydon Ennor (Crusaders)

Pretty much form selection, with firepower in the midfield. Scott Barrett at 6 is an interesting call, with a clear aim of bolstering the setpiece. It would be interesting to see what influence Joe Schmidt will have. It's clear the Blues massively benefited from having him around, after all.

Ofa ahead of Gus Ta'avao is a call I'm not 100% on, but I can live with it.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:37 pm
by J Dory
I would have preferred Jordan at 15, with Jordie on the bench or at 12.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:57 pm
by Puja
Ireland team is up:

Ireland: Keenan; Earls, Ringrose, Henshaw, Lowe; Sexton (capt), Gibson-Park; Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Beirne, Ryan; O'Mahony, Van der Flier, Doris.

Replacements: Heffernan, Bealham, Healy, Treadwell, Conan, Murray, Carbery, Aki.


Injury worries allayed by both Porter and Healy in the XXIII, although you wonder how fit they are.

Puja

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:12 pm
by morepork
I would have preferred Papali'i at 7. BB is going to bust out this series and do the damage.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:24 pm
by cashead
J Dory wrote:I would have preferred Jordan at 15, with Jordie on the bench or at 12.
Will Jordan's got the 'rona.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:12 pm
by J Dory
ahh, well fair enuff then

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:46 pm
by paddy no 11
Dioltas is the answer - a dish we won't be serving cold tomorrow

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:37 pm
by Cameo
morepork wrote:I would have preferred Papali'i at 7. BB is going to bust out this series and do the damage.
I suspect if he had been fully fit, he would be starting six. He's some player either way.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:18 am
by Mr Mwenda
Some quality kiwi haircuts on both sides. Great start by Ireland. Well constructed opening score that. Felt inevitable.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:49 am
by Puja
New Zealand just utterly brutalising Ireland in defence and at the breakdown. Some of the latter of dubious legality, but excellent quality. Ireland are going to need a rethink now they're 16 points down.

ETA. Correction, 23 points down. Ireland collapsing here.

Puja

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:17 am
by Mr Mwenda
Called away with NZ 9 ahead. Return and the game has got awfully one sided. Classic new Zealand!

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:20 am
by Mr Mwenda
Had been looking like Ireland were panicking after failing to make the most of their early superiority.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:31 am
by Banquo
good reffing

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:32 am
by Banquo
Then got the try well ….or. Not :D

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:41 am
by Banquo
Irish reserve hooker Ko’d there. Dickson is not a good ref as an aside veers between good decisions and poor ones- doesn’t pay attention enough

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:45 am
by Banquo
Banquo wrote:Irish reserve hooker Ko’d there. Dickson is not a good ref as an aside veers between good decisions and poor ones- doesn’t pay attention enough
Finally took him off- daft it took so long. He wobbled around for a couple of minutes- poor

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:04 am
by cashead
More like Direland, lol

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:11 am
by zer0
cashead wrote:More like Direland, lol
Cringe and jannie pilled.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:19 am
by zer0
Would prefer Taukei'aho and Papalii to start. Of those, Taukei'aho is the most likely unless Cane gets injured. Hope Sotutu is given a go next week.

The props did what they were selected to do - dominate the scrums - but their selection was very much a conservative 'save my arse' selection imo. I doubt they'll be able to achieve that level of dominance against the Boks or whichever other 6N teams have a strong scrum (England and France?) and will get shown up during phase play. Would've preferred instead just getting stuck in with the younger more dynamic, props such as de Groot, Newell, Norris, and Williams, but that's beyond the scope of this thread.

EDIT: Fainga'anuku was good on debut. Ardie's prominence in the second half speaks to his best position imo.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:23 am
by Banquo
cashead wrote:More like Direland, lol
The ABs will also get better.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:33 pm
by paddy no 11
Ireland were better than expected, ab's got an awful lot of decisions, Barrett could have got ared etc

Hopefully we drop jgp

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:53 pm
by Cameo
paddy no 11 wrote:Ireland were better than expected, ab's got an awful lot of decisions, Barrett could have got ared etc

Hopefully we drop jgp
Funny game - great start from Ireland but then ABsfoumd points a lot easier to come by once they were on top.

What could Barrett have got a red for?

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:25 am
by J Dory
Yellow for Karl Tu'inukuafe, I only saw the highlights but really? If anyone has dodgy links to full replays, I would love to see the full game.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:34 am
by cashead
Cameo wrote:
paddy no 11 wrote:Ireland were better than expected, ab's got an awful lot of decisions, Barrett could have got ared etc

Hopefully we drop jgp
Funny game - great start from Ireland but then ABsfoumd points a lot easier to come by once they were on top.

What could Barrett have got a red for?
Scott Barrett thumped O'Mahony around the head late in the game. Big Pete'd been chasing the ref around whinging at him as soon as he became captain, but yeah, no need to bash him around the head. It was definitely in the red card territory, and it wouldn't have affected the outcome (unless Ireland could produce around 40+ points in 5 minutes or so) but still.

Re: What's Irish for "revenge?" All Blacks vs Ireland at Eden Park

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:36 pm
by paddy no 11
Were never going to win but could have kept it to 10

Disallowing carberrys try but judging Aaron smith's touch to have gone backwards were both equally marginal give them both or neither

Anyway hopefully 2nd test is a good contest if Irish pack can front up