England training squad

[fivepointer]

Eddie Jones has named a 36-player England squad who will meet for a three-day training camp this weekend.

England will begin preparations for their four home Autumn Nations Series fixtures in November during the camp. The squad will meet in Richmond on Sunday 2 October and train at Twickenham Stadium.

First call-ups for camp include Northampton Saints’ Alex Coles and Saracens’ Hugh Tizard, both players having previously appeared for England U20s

Manu Tuilagi and Sam Simmonds are back in the squad following injury and there are returns for Ben Youngs, Alex Mitchell, Tom Pearson and David Ribbans.

England face Argentina in the first of their four matches at Twickenham Stadium on Sunday 6 November (2.15pm KO). They will then host Japan on Saturday 12 November (3.15pm KO), followed by New Zealand on Saturday 19 November (5.30pm KO). Their final match is against South Africa on Saturday 26 November (5.30pm KO).

"With a year to go to the Rugby World Cup, this is a big opportunity for players to come in and impress," said Jones. "We want them to show real energy and enthusiasm and that they want to be a part of this massive year.

"It doesn’t mean that those who have been left out won’t be considered for the Autumn Nations Series matches. We’ll be looking at club games, form and fitness and the door is left open for those players.

"We finished the Australia tour well. It was a fantastic experience, particularly for the younger players. We now have to start again, but we’ll build on what we’ve done there and continue that momentum."

FORWARDS

Ollie Chessum (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)
Alex Coles (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 37 caps)
Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 41 caps)
Ellis Genge (Bristol Bears, 39 caps)
Jamie George (Saracens, 69 caps)
Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)
Jonny Hill (Sale Sharks, 15 caps)
Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 14 caps)
Tom Pearson (London Irish, uncapped)
David Ribbans (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Bevan Rodd (Sale Sharks, 2 caps)
Patrick Schickerling (Exeter Chiefs, uncapped)
Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, 14 caps)
Will Stuart (Bath Rugby, 23 caps)
Hugh Tizard (Saracens, uncapped)
Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 64 caps)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 70 caps)
Jack Walker (Harlequins, uncapped)
Jack Willis (Wasps, 4 caps)

BACKS

Henry Arundell (London Irish, 3 caps)
Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 12 caps)
Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Owen Farrell (Saracens, 97 caps)
Tommy Freeman (Northampton Saints, 2 caps)
George Furbank (Northampton Saints, 6 caps)
Will Joseph (London Irish, 1 cap)
Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 69 caps)
Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, 1 cap)
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 42 caps)
Guy Porter (Leicester Tigers, 2 caps)
Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 13 caps)
Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, 13 caps)
Manu Tuilagi (Sale Sharks, 46 caps)
Jack van Poortvliet (Leicester Tigers, 3 caps)
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 117 caps)

Unavailable for selection due to injury: Alfie Barbeary, Nic Dolly, Alex Dombrandt, Charlie Ewels, George Ford, Sam Jeffries, Maro Itoje, Nick Isiekwe, Courtney Lawes, Sam Underhill, Anthony Watson.

[Mellsblue]

Mitchell in for Randall…

[Scrumhead]

Fine with that squad, although god knows what Marchant has done to be dumped completely. I still think he’s our best 13 and it’s not as though he’s in poor form either?

Ribbans is fortunate given how little he’s played in the last few months.

[Mellsblue]

Fine with that squad, although god knows what Marchant has done to be dumped completely. I still think he’s our best 13 and it’s not as though he’s in poor form either?

Ribbans is fortunate given how little he’s played in the last few months.

Goodness knows what Marchant did. The idea that Porter is a better OC is madness.

[fivepointer]

I suppose the caveat is that this is a training squad and Jones is keeping a few players back to take a look at some on the fringe and one or two newcomers.
Cant imagine Sinckler, Slade, Launchbury or Marchant wont be in contention come the autumn internationals.

[Mellsblue]

I suppose the caveat is that this is a training squad and Jones is keeping a few players back to take a look at some on the fringe and one or two newcomers.
Cant imagine Sinckler, Slade, Launchbury or Marchant wont be in contention come the autumn internationals.

The other caveat is that he dropped Marchant in Oz. It’s not a decision taken in isolation.

[Banquo]

Great to see Coles in - Mrs B taught him chemistry! Top lad. Glad Mitchell has been recalled, bit hard done by. We still look very raw and iffy in midfield , lock a bit thin too- hopefully temporary in the latter case.

What's up with Itoje?

[Puja]

No Murley again. I know it's a very, very competitive situation for England wingers right now with Steward locked in at 15 and the likes of Freeman and Arundell spilling to the wings, not to mention May, Watson, and Nowell, as well as the hope that Cokanasiga will come good, but I would like to see him at least in camp. Not least because he must have Celtic ancestry with a name like Cadan and I really don't want us to play against him in the future.

Randall officially dead to Jones. Not that I'm disappointed, as I think he's a brilliant but flawed player who isn't the answer at 9, but I wonder what on earth changed his mind?

Still cannot find any record of how Schickerling is remotely qualified for England. If he was actually genuinely English, I'd be thrilled with the form he's showing, and be absolutely in favour of dropping Sinckler to put a rocket up his arse. As it is, I'm saddened that we're poaching from Namibia of all countries, on the very thinnest of pretexts.

Puja

[Oakboy]

Strange that Quirke is not listed as 'unavailable through injury'. Anyone heard how he is?

[FKAS]

The squad will change before the AIs. I'm sure Marchant will be back in by then, as will Lawes and Marler. Well I'm presuming Lawes head knock at the weekend isn't too serious.

Think Eddie might have missed the game on Saturday where Dingwall attempted 19 tackles and missed 9 of them.

Thought George Martin might get a look in. He's had a good start to the season and looks the most like for like replacement for Lawes available.

Glad Tizard is getting a look in, thought he had a good shout for inclusion during the summer.

[Oakboy]

Great to see Coles in - Mrs B taught him chemistry! Top lad. Glad Mitchell has been recalled, bit hard done by. We still look very raw and iffy in midfield , lock a bit thin too- hopefully temporary in the latter case.

What's up with Itoje?

Didn't Itoje fail HIA?

[Banquo]

The squad will change before the AIs. I'm sure Marchant will be back in by then, as will Lawes and Marler. Well I'm presuming Lawes head knock at the weekend isn't too serious.

Think Eddie might have missed the game on Saturday where Dingwall attempted 19 tackles and missed 9 of them.

Thought George Martin might get a look in. He's had a good start to the season and looks the most like for like replacement for Lawes available.

Glad Tizard is getting a look in, thought he had a good shout for inclusion during the summer.

He must also have missed those games in Oz where Porter was as leaky as a sieve . But I agree, Fraser is a bit lucky- he was gutted after the match; Nandolo is a handful, but it was a predictable problem, and took saints too long to work it out. Mind if going on tackle stats, Steward is also lucky

[Banquo]

Great to see Coles in - Mrs B taught him chemistry! Top lad. Glad Mitchell has been recalled, bit hard done by. We still look very raw and iffy in midfield , lock a bit thin too- hopefully temporary in the latter case.

What's up with Itoje?

Didn't Itoje fail HIA?

ah, only saw the saints game (where Lawes also failed an HIA- he actually took himself off).

[Mellsblue]

The squad will change before the AIs. I'm sure Marchant will be back in by then, as will Lawes and Marler. Well I'm presuming Lawes head knock at the weekend isn't too serious.

Think Eddie might have missed the game on Saturday where Dingwall attempted 19 tackles and missed 9 of them.

Thought George Martin might get a look in. He's had a good start to the season and looks the most like for like replacement for Lawes available.

Glad Tizard is getting a look in, thought he had a good shout for inclusion during the summer.

He must also have missed those games in Oz where Porter was as leaky as a sieve . But I agree, Fraser is a bit lucky- he was gutted after the match; Nandolo is a handful, but it was a predictable problem, and took saints too long to work it out. Mind if going on tackle stats, Steward is also lucky

Luckily, he must’ve also missed Furbank going past Porter twice, the second time leading directly to Saints’ first try.
Also luckily, Jones doesn’t select solely on a player’s performance in the match directly preceding the announcement.

[FKAS]

The squad will change before the AIs. I'm sure Marchant will be back in by then, as will Lawes and Marler. Well I'm presuming Lawes head knock at the weekend isn't too serious.

Think Eddie might have missed the game on Saturday where Dingwall attempted 19 tackles and missed 9 of them.

Thought George Martin might get a look in. He's had a good start to the season and looks the most like for like replacement for Lawes available.

Glad Tizard is getting a look in, thought he had a good shout for inclusion during the summer.

He must also have missed those games in Oz where Porter was as leaky as a sieve . But I agree, Fraser is a bit lucky- he was gutted after the match; Nandolo is a handful, but it was a predictable problem, and took saints too long to work it out. Mind if going on tackle stats, Steward is also lucky

Ha, yeah I saw Steward's though so of his three misses were the tap tackle on Freeman and trying to stop an 18 stone lock on the angle 2m out. Less being run over in the midfield, admittedly by Nadolo which is excusable to an extent because he does that to a lot of people.

Wasn't a great summer tour for Porter. Didn't get given the ball but looked good in the two occasions he did and then seemed to struggle in the 13 channel, especially in the final test where the Aussies clearly targeted him knowing he'd been tasked with being aggressive and shutting down the outside but that his inside man was slow and winger was dropping a little back to cover the kick each time. A more experienced centre might have been able to cope better, perhaps why he's in the training squad as they think it's something they can coach him through. He hasn't had the academy route to professional rugby most have.

[FKAS]

The squad will change before the AIs. I'm sure Marchant will be back in by then, as will Lawes and Marler. Well I'm presuming Lawes head knock at the weekend isn't too serious.

Think Eddie might have missed the game on Saturday where Dingwall attempted 19 tackles and missed 9 of them.

Thought George Martin might get a look in. He's had a good start to the season and looks the most like for like replacement for Lawes available.

Glad Tizard is getting a look in, thought he had a good shout for inclusion during the summer.

He must also have missed those games in Oz where Porter was as leaky as a sieve . But I agree, Fraser is a bit lucky- he was gutted after the match; Nandolo is a handful, but it was a predictable problem, and took saints too long to work it out. Mind if going on tackle stats, Steward is also lucky

Luckily, he must’ve also missed Furbank going past Porter twice, the second time leading directly to Saints’ first try.
Also luckily, Jones doesn’t select solely on a player’s performance in the match directly preceding the announcement.

I'd hope an international fullback would be able to work a three on two in the amount of space Saints had for the first try. It was a really nice set up play, Jones did want to recruit Vesty previously but couldn't get the RFU to pay the compensation Saints were demanding. Real shame as the shape of the Saints attack is really nice. Furbank was a standout for Saints in that game.

Shame Porter went off with a HIA before Tigers opened the taps up at the end of the game. He scored a really nice try, bouncing through the Saints backline, a combination of him and Cokanasiga would have been fun with the Saints defence all over the place.

[Banquo]

The squad will change before the AIs. I'm sure Marchant will be back in by then, as will Lawes and Marler. Well I'm presuming Lawes head knock at the weekend isn't too serious.

Think Eddie might have missed the game on Saturday where Dingwall attempted 19 tackles and missed 9 of them.

Thought George Martin might get a look in. He's had a good start to the season and looks the most like for like replacement for Lawes available.

Glad Tizard is getting a look in, thought he had a good shout for inclusion during the summer.

He must also have missed those games in Oz where Porter was as leaky as a sieve . But I agree, Fraser is a bit lucky- he was gutted after the match; Nandolo is a handful, but it was a predictable problem, and took saints too long to work it out. Mind if going on tackle stats, Steward is also lucky

Ha, yeah I saw Steward's though so of his three misses were the tap tackle on Freeman and trying to stop an 18 stone lock on the angle 2m out. Less being run over in the midfield, admittedly by Nadolo which is excusable to an extent because he does that to a lot of people.

Wasn't a great summer tour for Porter. Didn't get given the ball but looked good in the two occasions he did and then seemed to struggle in the 13 channel, especially in the final test where the Aussies clearly targeted him knowing he'd been tasked with being aggressive and shutting down the outside but that his inside man was slow and winger was dropping a little back to cover the kick each time. A more experienced centre might have been able to cope better, perhaps why he's in the training squad as they think it's something they can coach him through. He hasn't had the academy route to professional rugby most have.

He was skinned by Freeman but most would have been, Freeman is quick. Porter looked plain out of his depth in defence at 13, as he did on Saturday tbh, plants his feet and gets square on- as you say, could be worked on, but need to do it fast- mind, as I said at the time, the system was sh*t and an experienced 13 would also have been in a bit of bother.
Dingwall is normally a much better defender, but it was an iffy day at the office- mind, 19 attempted tackles is big for a centre and reflects double teaming Nandolo as much as anything.

[Puja]

The squad will change before the AIs. I'm sure Marchant will be back in by then, as will Lawes and Marler.

I'm pretty sure I can find historical posts with identical wording, talking about Ford and the Vunipolae being back for the AIs and not to attach such importance to a training squad. Eddie does have a tendency to select who he means.

Puja

[Epaminondas Pules]

Somewhat as expected, especially with those missing. I'd have looked at Martin, which has started the season really well, and how Porter is there, let alone over Marchant is another level of baffling.

[Mellsblue]

He must also have missed those games in Oz where Porter was as leaky as a sieve . But I agree, Fraser is a bit lucky- he was gutted after the match; Nandolo is a handful, but it was a predictable problem, and took saints too long to work it out. Mind if going on tackle stats, Steward is also lucky

Luckily, he must’ve also missed Furbank going past Porter twice, the second time leading directly to Saints’ first try.
Also luckily, Jones doesn’t select solely on a player’s performance in the match directly preceding the announcement.

I'd hope an international fullback would be able to work a three on two in the amount of space Saints had for the first try. It was a really nice set up play, Jones did want to recruit Vesty previously but couldn't get the RFU to pay the compensation Saints were demanding. Real shame as the shape of the Saints attack is really nice. Furbank was a standout for Saints in that game.

Shame Porter went off with a HIA before Tigers opened the taps up at the end of the game. He scored a really nice try, bouncing through the Saints backline, a combination of him and Cokanasiga would have been fun with the Saints defence all over the place.

As I remember it they were numbered up. Glad that we agree that Furbank is an international fullback
For some reason you give Leicester players a lot more leeway than those from other clubs…

[Mellsblue]

Somewhat as expected, especially with those missing. I'd have looked at Martin, which has started the season really well, and how Porter is there, let alone over Marchant is another level of baffling.

FKAS is Eddie Jones and I claim my £10.

[Timbo]

I’m glad Sinckler is not involved. Watched the Bristol - Irish game back on PRTV and I can’t see the penny dropping with him. He used to distribute well but also run hard lines, now he thinks he’s Danny Cipriani who also does a bit of scrummaging. It’s just very powderpuff.

Personally it’s a shame not see Murley, Lawrence, Launchbury or Tom Willis. I’m still a big fan of Malins, but I get that he had an opportunity and didn’t make the most of it.

Would have happily bombed out Nowell, Porter, Cokanasiga and Sam Simmonds. Think May is very lucky to get picked too.

But yes, only a training squad so we’ll see how things go.

[Banquo]

Somewhat as expected, especially with those missing. I'd have looked at Martin, which has started the season really well, and how Porter is there, let alone over Marchant is another level of baffling.

Clearly young Jones doesn't like his character that much, cos it can't be his play.

[Banquo]

I’m glad Sinckler is not involved. Watched the Bristol - Irish game back on PRTV and I can’t see the penny dropping with him. He used to distribute well but also run hard lines, now he thinks he’s Danny Cipriani who also does a bit of scrummaging. It’s just very powderpuff.

Personally it’s a shame not see Murley, Lawrence, Launchbury or Tom Willis. I’m still a big fan of Malins, but I get that he had an opportunity and didn’t make the most of it.

Would have happily bombed out Nowell, Porter, Cokanasiga and Sam Simmonds. Think May is very lucky to get picked too.

But yes, only a training squad so we’ll see how things go.

Yep to those who shouldn't really be there.

[Scrumhead]

Somewhat as expected, especially with those missing. I'd have looked at Martin, which has started the season really well, and how Porter is there, let alone over Marchant is another level of baffling.

Clearly young Jones doesn't like his character that much, cos it can't be his play.

Possibly, although I find that really hard to believe. Joe Marchant is a hard working, popular player who definitely isn’t the type to make a fuss. Perhaps by playing consistently very well he is the victim one of those situations where Eddie won’t admit he was wrong.

I prefer Dingwall to Porter but neither are close to Marchant IMO.