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fivepointer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:18 pm Tigers wobbling. Quins away isnt the ideal fixture but if they can get an edge up front it will make things interesting.

FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:28 pm

fivepointer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:18 pm Tigers wobbling. Quins away isnt the ideal fixture but if they can get an edge up front it will make things interesting.

I'll be happy if we can grab a LBP.

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:36 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:28 pm

fivepointer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:18 pm Tigers wobbling. Quins away isnt the ideal fixture but if they can get an edge up front it will make things interesting.

I'll be happy if we can grab a LBP.

Its still a side rammed with quality.

FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:48 pm

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:36 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:28 pm

I'll be happy if we can grab a LBP.

Its still a side rammed with quality.

Just not in the midfield where Quins are very strong. We've got one out of form second choice centre and a winger up against one of the best inside centres in world rugby and a very good club level OC. I just think it'll provide an easy outlet to get them on the front foot and get their backs into the game even if they are being out muscled up front (Quins pack is pretty stacked so unlikely).

Quins score a lot of points Vs pretty much everyone, defence is a little leaky but our attack has been pretty meh so far.

Peej wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 5:26 pm I think Tigers might be able to grind this out and win.

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:36 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:28 pm

fivepointer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:18 pm Tigers wobbling. Quins away isnt the ideal fixture but if they can get an edge up front it will make things interesting.

I'll be happy if we can grab a LBP.

Its still a side rammed with quality.

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 5:34 pm

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:36 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:28 pm

I'll be happy if we can grab a LBP.

Its still a side rammed with quality.

Shame they’re playing like sheep

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:56 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:48 pm

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:36 pm

Its still a side rammed with quality.

Just not in the midfield where Quins are very strong. We've got one out of form second choice centre and a winger up against one of the best inside centres in world rugby and a very good club level OC. I just think it'll provide an easy outlet to get them on the front foot and get their backs into the game even if they are being out muscled up front (Quins pack is pretty stacked so unlikely).

Quins score a lot of points Vs pretty much everyone, defence is a little leaky but our attack has been pretty meh so far.

Bit defeatist tbh. These problems have been evident for a while, and the coaching staff should have been working on them.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:12 am

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:56 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:48 pm

Just not in the midfield where Quins are very strong. We've got one out of form second choice centre and a winger up against one of the best inside centres in world rugby and a very good club level OC. I just think it'll provide an easy outlet to get them on the front foot and get their backs into the game even if they are being out muscled up front (Quins pack is pretty stacked so unlikely).

Quins score a lot of points Vs pretty much everyone, defence is a little leaky but our attack has been pretty meh so far.

Bit defeatist tbh. These problems have been evident for a while, and the coaching staff should have been working on them.

Yes and no. Clearly we have been looking at playing a different style but it's a style that is based on Pollard at 10 and not Burns. Pollard is a much greater running threat so facilitates a secondary playmaker at 12. Burns doesn't and so we need to go back to last season's tactics but with injuries we have struggled to put out a side that can do that. We're trying to go back and play last season's style today so we'll see if it works but the lack of fit centres aren't helping things and as willing as Gopperth is he can't play like Kelly at 12 and Scott will struggle to as well though at least he might get closer.

These issues weren't really there last season and we are trying to move things on but it isn't working and so we're going back to the kicking game as a reset. Burns indifferent form is not helping with that though and neither was Ashton at 15 in the first game Vs Chiefs.

Quins are a good team and the Stoop is not an easy place to go. Before the financial carnage the plan was, get through the Quins game as the last one in a very tough start to the season and then look to gain some momentum against Wasps and Worcester at home. I'd still take an LBP tomorrow, it'll mean we've pushed Quins close and so have been in the fight throughout.

Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:10 am

FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:12 am

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:56 pm

Bit defeatist tbh. These problems have been evident for a while, and the coaching staff should have been working on them.

Yes and no. Clearly we have been looking at playing a different style but it's a style that is based on Pollard at 10 and not Burns. Pollard is a much greater running threat so facilitates a secondary playmaker at 12. Burns doesn't and so we need to go back to last season's tactics but with injuries we have struggled to put out a side that can do that. We're trying to go back and play last season's style today so we'll see if it works but the lack of fit centres aren't helping things and as willing as Gopperth is he can't play like Kelly at 12 and Scott will struggle to as well though at least he might get closer.

These issues weren't really there last season and we are trying to move things on but it isn't working and so we're going back to the kicking game as a reset. Burns indifferent form is not helping with that though and neither was Ashton at 15 in the first game Vs Chiefs.

Quins are a good team and the Stoop is not an easy place to go. Before the financial carnage the plan was, get through the Quins game as the last one in a very tough start to the season and then look to gain some momentum against Wasps and Worcester at home. I'd still take an LBP tomorrow, it'll mean we've pushed Quins close and so have been in the fight throughout.

Given Pollard has hardly been available and is now crocked, you'd think the coaches would have had some form of other plan before, no? and frankly, its the defence that has been poor. Given the quality of players available across the squad, it all seems a bit pessimistic to me.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:58 pm

Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:10 am

FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:12 am

Yes and no. Clearly we have been looking at playing a different style but it's a style that is based on Pollard at 10 and not Burns. Pollard is a much greater running threat so facilitates a secondary playmaker at 12. Burns doesn't and so we need to go back to last season's tactics but with injuries we have struggled to put out a side that can do that. We're trying to go back and play last season's style today so we'll see if it works but the lack of fit centres aren't helping things and as willing as Gopperth is he can't play like Kelly at 12 and Scott will struggle to as well though at least he might get closer.

These issues weren't really there last season and we are trying to move things on but it isn't working and so we're going back to the kicking game as a reset. Burns indifferent form is not helping with that though and neither was Ashton at 15 in the first game Vs Chiefs.

Quins are a good team and the Stoop is not an easy place to go. Before the financial carnage the plan was, get through the Quins game as the last one in a very tough start to the season and then look to gain some momentum against Wasps and Worcester at home. I'd still take an LBP tomorrow, it'll mean we've pushed Quins close and so have been in the fight throughout.

Given Pollard has hardly been available and is now crocked, you'd think the coaches would have had some form of other plan before, no? and frankly, its the defence that has been poor. Given the quality of players available across the squad, it all seems a bit pessimistic to me.

Yes but during the summer you don't plan for a type of rugby that doesn't make best use of your big name flyhalf that was playing for the Boks at 10. The lack of fit centres has also hindered out ability to go back to last season's system. The defence is generally because we've ended up not kicking on our terms because the attack isn't working plus Gopperth who's only been at the club for a few months is having to organise the defence as opposed to Kelly and Moroni last season who were exceptional at that.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:51 pm Tigers mugging Quins at the breakdown repeatedly. Happily both teams have been kicking to the corner and looking to score tries. Still think this game could come more to life in the second half.

The Reffell intervention on Northmore was outstanding, looked a really good try until the second watch.

Stom wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:16 pm No, sorry, the ref is having a mare now. That's 3 in a row where the jackaller hasn't supported their weight. Not good enough from either him or Quins.