RugbyRebels

Forwards
Ollie Chessum
Dan Cole
Tom Curry
Alex Dombrandt
Tom Dunn
Ben Earl
Ellis Genge
Jamie George
Nick Isiekwe
Maro Itoje
Courtney Lawes
Lewis Ludlam
David Ribbans
Bevan Rodd
Sam Simmonds
Kyle Sinckler
Will Stuart
Mako Vunipola
Jack Walker
Jack Willis

Backs
Henry Arundell
Fraser Dingwall
Owen Farrell
Tommy Freeman
George Ford
Ollie Lawrence
Max Malins
Joe Marchant
Alex Mitchell
Cadan Murley
Henry Slade
Marcus Smith
Freddie Steward
Jack van Poortvliet
Anthony Watson
Ben Youngs

Out - Hill, Heyes, B Curry, F Smith, Tuilagi, OHC
In - Lawes, Stuart, T Curry, Ford, Dingwall, Murley

Poor old B Cuzza. I’d have ditched Early Bird.

Wow that's a fall from grace for Johnny Hill.

Dingwall I'm slightly disappointed with because I think Seb Atkinson has more potential upside and would benefit from being in camp as neither are likely to actually play Vs Wales. No slight on Dingwall.

OHC paying the price for two quiet displays.

Will Stuart back is great news.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:14 pm Wow that's a fall from grace for Johnny Hill.

Dingwall I'm slightly disappointed with because I think Seb Atkinson has more potential upside and would benefit from being in camp as neither are likely to actually play Vs Wales. No slight on Dingwall.

OHC paying the price for two quiet displays.

Will Stuart back is great news.

OHC has a knee injury actually, but it might be conveniently timed from the management's pov.

rjjb wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:18 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:14 pm Wow that's a fall from grace for Johnny Hill.

Dingwall I'm slightly disappointed with because I think Seb Atkinson has more potential upside and would benefit from being in camp as neither are likely to actually play Vs Wales. No slight on Dingwall.

OHC paying the price for two quiet displays.

Will Stuart back is great news.

OHC has a knee injury actually, but it might be conveniently timed from the management's pov.

Like Tonya Harding you mean? That’s quite an accusation you’re making there.

Great to see Fraser in- Manu did him a biiig favour

Banquo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:45 pm Great to see Fraser in- Manu did him a biiig favour

Not the first time Manu has tried to torpedo his own career.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:14 pm Wow that's a fall from grace for Johnny Hill.

Dingwall I'm slightly disappointed with because I think Seb Atkinson has more potential upside and would benefit from being in camp as neither are likely to actually play Vs Wales. No slight on Dingwall.

OHC paying the price for two quiet displays.

Will Stuart back is great news.

Fraser has done well in camps and was very good yesterday. What is Atkinson's upside- I've only seen the one game of him where he was solid so a genuine q

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:46 pm

Banquo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:45 pm Great to see Fraser in- Manu did him a biiig favour

Not the first time Manu has tried to torpedo his own career.

True. Shame cos he actually looks as lean as I've ever seen him.

I assume OHC's knee locked up whilst he was waiting for a pass.

Banquo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:47 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:14 pm Wow that's a fall from grace for Johnny Hill.

Dingwall I'm slightly disappointed with because I think Seb Atkinson has more potential upside and would benefit from being in camp as neither are likely to actually play Vs Wales. No slight on Dingwall.

OHC paying the price for two quiet displays.

Will Stuart back is great news.

Fraser has done well in camps and was very good yesterday. What is Atkinson's upside- I've only seen the one game of him where he was solid so a genuine q

He just seems one of those guys who punches well above his weight. Stats say he's 14 stone but defensively he's rock solid against much bigger opposition and ball in hand he has a knack for getting over the gain line. Nice hands as well, steps in to allow his 10 to play out the back. At 20 he looks ridiculously composed at Prem level. He'd be in as more of an apprentice but let's face it the midfield will be Lawrence and Slade with Farrell covering. Marchant might make the bench but whomever was called up Manu is unlikely to get a spot.

I'd heard similar about Dingwall, popular character by all accounts.

I'm sure Atkinson's time will come. He does look a tremendous prospect. I do think he's a possible WC bolter - if he at least maintains his current form.
Right now bringing in Dingwall makes sense as he has been in England squads.
Elsewhere its really tough on Ben Curry. Picked for a game, then ditched and now out of the squad.
Having Stuart, Ford, T curry and Lawes back in the squad hardly weakens it.

The burning question for me is, 'Why has SB brought Ford in?'

I don't mean why select him, I mean what has he brought him in to do? Is it going to be him or Smith on the bench? Is he going to get the 10 shirt? If he gets the 10 shirt will it be with Farrell at 12?

They are all the same old questions but what will SB do?

What will Stooby Booby do?

Oakboy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:20 pm The burning question for me is, 'Why has SB brought Ford in?'

I don't mean why select him, I mean what has he brought him in to do? Is it going to be him or Smith on the bench? Is he going to get the 10 shirt? If he gets the 10 shirt will it be with Farrell at 12?

They are all the same old questions but what will SB do?

Is doesn’t seem remarkable in the slightest. Have you got so used to having an apprentice/prospect player in the squad instead of having your 3 best options? Have you got Stockholm syndrome from EJ?

I don’t see any need to rush Ford back in but it makes sense for him (and Lawes) to at least be familiar with what this new England group are trying to do in camp.

OHC has fluid on the knee and is seeing specialist tomorrow

Gutted for Ben Curry. Still a bit of dead wood in the 36 but starting to take shape

George Ford is probably our most complete flyhalf and one Borthwick trusts. Sanderson has also commented a few times that Ford has been working with the Sale backline to help the attack. If he could help with that a bit for England then that would be a potential benefit.

Makes sense to have our three best flyhalfs in the squad, Fin Smith also went off injured for Saints.

Will Ford suit ‘warrenball’?

Paper hinting at Ford grubbers to replace Smith hitch kicks.

p/d wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:17 am Paper hinting at Ford grubbers to replace Smith hitch kicks.

I'd heard that was the plan too.

Spiral Bombs, surely?

New inside line has Ben Earl grubbering in the opening montage XD

When's the squad being cut? I thought it was today with team announced on Thursday.

FORWARDS
Ollie Chessum (Leicester Tigers, 7 caps)
Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 97 caps)
Ben Curry (Sale Sharks, 2 caps)
Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins, 11 caps)
Ellis Genge (Bristol Bears, 45 caps)
Jamie George (Saracens, 74 caps)
Nick Isiekwe (Saracens, 10 caps)
Maro Itoje (Saracens, 64 caps)
Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 96 caps)
Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 16 caps)
Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, 58 caps)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 76 caps)
Jack Walker (Harlequins, 1 cap)
Jack Willis (Toulouse, 7 caps)
BACKS
Henry Arundell (London Irish, 4 caps)
Owen Farrell (Saracens, 103 caps)
Ollie Lawrence (Bath Rugby, 9 caps)
Max Malins (Saracens, 16 caps)
Joe Marchant (Harlequins, 14 caps)
Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, 2 caps)
Cadan Murley (Harlequins, uncapped)
Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 53 caps)
Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 19 caps)
Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, 19 caps)
Jack van Poortvliet (Leicester Tigers, 9 caps)
Anthony Watson (Leicester Tigers, 52 caps)

No Earl, but Curry in for Curry.
Marchant surplus to requirements, and probably Murley too