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France v All Blacks
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:35 pm
by Lizard
No J Barrett. No Retallick. No Frizell.
Who exactly is going to carry the ball for us?
The French are a bit understaffed, too, but I they’ll have an extra 80,000 on their side in the stands. I can’t see 2007 happening again.
Jaco Peyper has the whistle. Let’s hope he has a good one and we get the spectacle the occasion deserves.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:52 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Do you feel like this game is important in terms of winning the cup? Do you care whether you get SA or Ireland or Scotland in the QF? Or is it just important as a Test match?
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:52 am
by Lizard
Eugene Wrayburn wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:52 pm
Do you feel like this game is important in terms of winning the cup? Do you care whether you get SA or Ireland or Scotland in the QF? Or is it just important as a Test match?
First, all tests are important. The biggest damage the Foster era has done is that the All Blacks are now seen as just another team, beatable by any other team in the top rank. The sooner we start to rebuild from that the better.
Secondly, France at world cups is kind of a sore point. It would be very bad if the 2011 final was a blip and we can’t establish dominance in these fixtures.
Thirdly, regardless of who we get in a QF, losses in our 2 most recent hard games, followed by matches v Namibia, Italy and Uruguay, will be piss poor preparation.
So, winning v France is not important in terms of getting the most favourably specific QF opponent, but it is important in every other way.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:12 pm
by J Dory
Important to get some mojo back IMO. QF will be tough regardless.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:37 pm
by morepork
Two good, hard jobbings in a row will be difficult to come back from. We need to front up here. I really don't know how we can contain them. Alldritt, Danty, Dupont...they can front up and throw it about. We can't afford to be too structured, which leaves me nervous about Sam's Cane's leadership. I don't think we have an answer to them and I just hope there is enough left in the damn the torpedoes locker of a few individuals to make them nervous. Bench will be a massive factor.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:38 pm
by 16th man
Danty is out, and a massive miss for their defensive system.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:51 pm
by morepork
Excellent
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:57 am
by Which Tyler
Bonne chance les bleus!
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:26 pm
by Banquo
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:52 pm
by BaldiePete
No further sanction, with the red card being deemed sufficient punishment. I presume this was because he got a red for two yellows. The second yellow was reviewed in the bunker and determined to only be a yellow so it wasn’t upgraded to red. If he hadn’t had the first yellow he’d have been free to return to play after his 10 minutes on the naughty step. Very dodgy, I was very surprised the 2nd yellow wasn’t upgraded to a red.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:35 pm
by cashead
The ruling was that
1. He entered the ruck at reasonable speed
2. He didn't enter the ruck late
3. Marx didn't suffer any injury, and all things considered, was fine
4. The initial point of contact was Marx's arm, which slid up
5. He was clumsy, not malicious
Considering his priors, I thought he'd be sitting out a couple of weeks, but apparently not.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:58 pm
by Lizard
All Blacks match-day squad
Beauden Barrett
Will Jordan
Rieko Ioane
Anton Lienert-Brown
Mark Telea
Richie Mo'unga
Aaron Smith
Ardie Savea
Sam Cane (captain)
Dalton Papali'i
Scott Barrett
Sam Whitelock
Nepo Laulala
Codie Taylor
Ethan de Groot.
Replacements: Samisoni Taukei'aho, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tupou Vaa'i, Luke Jacobson, Finlay Christie, David Havili, Leicester Fainga'anuku.
Not a bad XV, but no-one is worried about our flankers, especiaily Captain 60 Minutes. I hipe ALB hits the groubnd running. Bench looks thin.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:48 pm
by francoisfou
With all the hype and build-up over the last few weeks, we’re 24 hours away from the match and the expectation among us French fans is at fever pitch, and a 3-0 win would be just great!
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:02 pm
by morepork
Don't say those things. Not now man. A single feckin drop goal would be....somewhat of a let down.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:57 pm
by Lizard
Looks like Sky Sport has hired a fucking comedian in their scheduling team:
12:20 AM: Full replay of NZ v France RWC1999
2:20 AM: Full replay of NZ v France RWC2007
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:30 am
by canta_brian
That is quite funny tbf
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:33 am
by canta_brian
Lizard wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:52 am
Eugene Wrayburn wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:52 pm
Do you feel like this game is important in terms of winning the cup? Do you care whether you get SA or Ireland or Scotland in the QF? Or is it just important as a Test match?
First, all tests are important. The biggest damage the Foster era has done is that the All Blacks are now seen as just another team, beatable by any other team in the top rank. The sooner we start to rebuild from that the better.
Secondly, France at world cups is kind of a sore point. It would be very bad if the 2011 final was a blip and we can’t establish dominance in these fixtures.
Thirdly, regardless of who we get in a QF, losses in our 2 most recent hard games, followed by matches v Namibia, Italy and Uruguay, will be piss poor preparation.
So, winning v France is not important in terms of getting the most favourably specific QF opponent, but it is important in every other way.
And we have never lost a pool match. Another record for Foster to break? His comments in the BBC piece talking about building to the quarters seems worrying
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:12 am
by 16th man
canta_brian wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:33 am
Lizard wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:52 am
Eugene Wrayburn wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:52 pm
Do you feel like this game is important in terms of winning the cup? Do you care whether you get SA or Ireland or Scotland in the QF? Or is it just important as a Test match?
First, all tests are important. The biggest damage the Foster era has done is that the All Blacks are now seen as just another team, beatable by any other team in the top rank. The sooner we start to rebuild from that the better.
Secondly, France at world cups is kind of a sore point. It would be very bad if the 2011 final was a blip and we can’t establish dominance in these fixtures.
Thirdly, regardless of who we get in a QF, losses in our 2 most recent hard games, followed by matches v Namibia, Italy and Uruguay, will be piss poor preparation.
So, winning v France is not important in terms of getting the most favourably specific QF opponent, but it is important in every other way.
And we have never lost a pool match. Another record for Foster to break? His comments in the BBC piece talking about building to the quarters seems worrying
But, given the insanity that is that side of the draw, reasonably sensible?
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:24 pm
by cashead
I'd love to know what Fuckwit Fozzie's half time team talk was. Must've been a hell of a speech to replace everyone's brains with literal shit.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:26 pm
by cashead
Fucking Ian Foster, absolutely useless cunt. Should never have been appointed, and fired at least three times over now.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:17 am
by J Dory
Can't win em all. We're still in this thing, would love to see NZ France final.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:03 pm
by francoisfou
J Dory wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:17 am
Can't win em all. We're still in this thing,
would love to see NZ France final.
No, you wouldn't
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 6:49 pm
by morepork
francoisfou wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:03 pm
J Dory wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:17 am
Can't win em all. We're still in this thing,
would love to see NZ France final.
No, you wouldn't
How very dare you.
Actually, the final we would deep in our hearts like to see is SA France. Power Vs. Power multiplied by X-factor = absorbing contest. ABs have neither scary power nor scary X-factor and I think are going to be plucky little triers in the knockout stages at this World Cup. Unfortunately. Such is life.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:05 pm
by cashead
Quarterfinalists, first team to lose to the Irish at that stage. Another record for Foster and his All Blacks In Name Only!
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:32 am
by Lizard
cashead wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:05 pm
Quarterfinalists, first team to lose to the Irish at that stage. Another record for Foster and his All Blacks In Name Only!
I think we’ve got First Loss To Italy before that.