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Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 3:40 pm
by PPJ
Talk is he gone.

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:13 pm
by Puja
Chronicle's just confirmed it. Utterly unsurprising.

Puja

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:14 pm
by Oakboy
On bbc website too. Where will that leave his son?

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:21 pm
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote:On bbc website too. Where will that leave his son?
Bath?

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:28 pm
by Puja
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:On bbc website too. Where will that leave his son?
Bath?
Bath's bench, if he doesn't pull his finger out. Mind, Farrell improved no end after being completely out from under Daddy's coaching - maybe the same will be true of Ford.

Puja

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:29 pm
by Banquo
Word is that Burt's going in to see Tarquin tomorrow.

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:30 pm
by Beasties
Out of the frying pan.............. :?

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:39 pm
by Mellsblue
Puja wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:On bbc website too. Where will that leave his son?
Bath?
Bath's bench, if he doesn't pull his finger out. Mind, Farrell improved no end after being completely out from under Daddy's coaching - maybe the same will be true of Ford.

Puja
By that metric they'll have a full bench. Pretty much the entire squad underperformed this season.

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:39 pm
by Mellsblue
Beasties wrote:Out of the frying pan.............. :?
Quite.

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:46 pm
by fivepointer
No surprise. Bath have underperformed badly this season and there does seem to be a good deal of discontent around the place.

Talk of Burt taking a job with the Highlanders. I'm sure if Bruce made the right offer.......

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:50 pm
by Puja
Mellsblue wrote:
Puja wrote:
Banquo wrote: Bath?
Bath's bench, if he doesn't pull his finger out. Mind, Farrell improved no end after being completely out from under Daddy's coaching - maybe the same will be true of Ford.

Puja
By that metric they'll have a full bench. Pretty much the entire squad underperformed this season.
I dunno - Priestland did pretty well with his limited time.

I can think of worse people than Burt to take over actually. His RWC was execrable, but he did have successes before that. Get the right support team around him and I think he'd do well.

Puja

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:54 pm
by Which Tyler
Eminently unsurprising.

From the outside I'd have given him until Christmas before shopping around (but sounded out a few top-class options in the mean-time).
However, that's not knowing how accurate the rumours of a split dressing room, favouritism etc etc are. I wouldn't be in the least surprised if Bruce basically thinks that Ford's management style needs to someone else on the coaching team to go around after him cleaning up his mess; and with Hatley leaving as well...

Oh, and everyone should just STFU about Burt and Squeeky; I have no idea to tempt fate (though Burt might be a decent option to clean up someone else's mess... again).

Just think if we go the Leicester route and hire Ex-players... Dream team of Robinson, with Callard and Catt... I'd rather Burt and Squeeky!

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:01 pm
by Banquo
Which Tyler wrote:Eminently unsurprising.

From the outside I'd have given him until Christmas before shopping around (but sounded out a few top-class options in the mean-time).
However, that's not knowing how accurate the rumours of a split dressing room, favouritism etc etc are. I wouldn't be in the least surprised if Bruce basically thinks that Ford's management style needs to someone else on the coaching team to go around after him cleaning up his mess; and with Hatley leaving as well...

Oh, and everyone should just STFU about Burt and Squeeky; I have no idea to tempt fate (though Burt might be a decent option to clean up someone else's mess... again).

Just think if we go the Leicester route and hire Ex-players... Dream team of Robinson, with Callard and Catt... I'd rather Burt and Squeeky!
:) sorry.

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:04 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
Puja wrote:
Bath's bench, if he doesn't pull his finger out. Mind, Farrell improved no end after being completely out from under Daddy's coaching - maybe the same will be true of Ford.

Puja
By that metric they'll have a full bench. Pretty much the entire squad underperformed this season.
I dunno - Priestland did pretty well with his limited time.

I can think of worse people than Burt to take over actually. His RWC was execrable, but he did have successes before that. Get the right support team around him and I think he'd do well.

Puja
He hasn't got a great track record in getting the right support team though, has he....and had limited club senior coaching experience in any case- somewhat up and down :)

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:17 pm
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote:
Puja wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
By that metric they'll have a full bench. Pretty much the entire squad underperformed this season.
I dunno - Priestland did pretty well with his limited time.

I can think of worse people than Burt to take over actually. His RWC was execrable, but he did have successes before that. Get the right support team around him and I think he'd do well.

Puja
He hasn't got a great track record in getting the right support team though, has he....and had limited club senior coaching experience in any case- somewhat up and down :)
I'm stuck trying to think of his successes.

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:21 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Puja wrote:
I dunno - Priestland did pretty well with his limited time.

I can think of worse people than Burt to take over actually. His RWC was execrable, but he did have successes before that. Get the right support team around him and I think he'd do well.

Puja
He hasn't got a great track record in getting the right support team though, has he....and had limited club senior coaching experience in any case- somewhat up and down :)
I'm stuck trying to think of his successes.
Took Leeds up, but they went down again straight away. Did OK at the RFU before the 1st team job, with Saxons and u20's.

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:25 pm
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
Banquo wrote: He hasn't got a great track record in getting the right support team though, has he....and had limited club senior coaching experience in any case- somewhat up and down :)
I'm stuck trying to think of his successes.
Took Leeds up, but they went down again straight away. Did OK at the RFU before the 1st team job, with Saxons and u20's.
Still stuck.

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:39 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
I'm stuck trying to think of his successes.
Took Leeds up, but they went down again straight away. Did OK at the RFU before the 1st team job, with Saxons and u20's.
Still stuck.
Churchill Cup x 3 I think, U20 grand slam, three IRB junior finals. But you have a point, which I tend to agree with.

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:41 pm
by Puja
Mellsblue wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
I'm stuck trying to think of his successes.
Took Leeds up, but they went down again straight away. Did OK at the RFU before the 1st team job, with Saxons and u20's.
Still stuck.
Beat every team in the top 10 bar South Africa (with a draw away being the best result). His win over the ABs was one of only 3 defeats for NZ in the last 4 years. Had an 80% win record in the 6N - yeah, he never won it, but it was still far better than we'd been used to in the 4 years before.

He had flaws, many and varied. But he did do some good things too.

Puja

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:43 pm
by Which Tyler
Stoppit!
Stoppit!
Stoppit!
Stoppit!
Stoppit!

We are NOT talking about Burt for this role!

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:46 pm
by PPJ
Any one but Bomber.

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:46 pm
by Banquo
Which Tyler wrote:Stoppit!
Stoppit!
Stoppit!
Stoppit!
Stoppit!

We are NOT talking about Burt for this role!
ah, that Burt, he was a great England coach...why on earth did we get rid..say his name three times, and he will appear...

BURT....
BURT.....

B....

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:47 pm
by Digby
You can have Burt if he hires Ernie

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:50 pm
by Banquo
Digby wrote:You can have Burt if he hires Ernie
..or Els?

Re: Ford.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:56 pm
by Digby
Banquo wrote:
Digby wrote:You can have Burt if he hires Ernie
..or Els?
I went from Ernie to Eric, which further led me to wonder would I offer the job to Burt, or Eric Elwood?