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Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:29 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Saracens Men team to play Munster Rugby:

1 Phil Brantingham

2 Jamie George

3 Marco Riccioni

4 Maro Itoje (c)

5 Harry Wilson

6 Juan Martin Gonzalez

7 Ben Earl

8 Tom Willis

9 Ivan van Zyl

10 Fergus Burke

11 Lucio Cinti

12 Nick Tompkins

13 Alex Lozowski

14 Liam Williams

15 Elliot Daly

Replacements:

16 Theo Dan

17 Eroni Mawi

18 Alec Clarey

19 Max Eke

20 Nathan Michelow

21 Gareth Simpson

22 Olly Hartley

23 Tobias Elliott

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:33 pm
by FKAS
Munster: Mike Haley; Calvin Nash, Tom Farrell, Rory Scannell, Shane Daly; Jack Crowley, Conor Murray; Dian Bleuler, Niall Scannell, Oli Jager; Fineen Wycherley, Tadhg Beirne (C); Jack O’Donoghue, Alex Kendellen, Gavin Coombes.

Replacements: Diarmuid Barron, John Ryan, Stephen Archer, Tom Ahern, John Hodnett, Paddy Patterson, Billy Burns, Brian Gleeson.

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:24 pm
by paddy no 11
It's poor starting munster team

I suspect we'll kick the leather off the ball for 50 minutes as we have no one to run threw that defence in the backs, our bomb squad backrow is our only hope of getting the win

Saracens +3

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:55 pm
by FKAS
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:24 pm It's poor starting munster team

I suspect we'll kick the leather off the ball for 50 minutes as we have no one to run threw that defence in the backs, our bomb squad backrow is our only hope of getting the win

Saracens +3
Is there a lot of injuries for Munster or did they just recruit badly in the summer?

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:14 pm
by paddy no 11
FKAS wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:55 pm
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:24 pm It's poor starting munster team

I suspect we'll kick the leather off the ball for 50 minutes as we have no one to run threw that defence in the backs, our bomb squad backrow is our only hope of getting the win

Saracens +3
Is there a lot of injuries for Munster or did they just recruit badly in the summer?
Lot of injuries, mahony, kleyn, nankivill

Our general injury profile Iver 2 years is bad and rumoured to be 1 readon rowntree got moved on

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:10 pm
by FKAS
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:14 pm
FKAS wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:55 pm
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:24 pm It's poor starting munster team

I suspect we'll kick the leather off the ball for 50 minutes as we have no one to run threw that defence in the backs, our bomb squad backrow is our only hope of getting the win

Saracens +3
Is there a lot of injuries for Munster or did they just recruit badly in the summer?
Lot of injuries, mahony, kleyn, nankivill

Our general injury profile Iver 2 years is bad and rumoured to be 1 readon rowntree got moved on
I'd heard rumours he wasn't happy with the recruitment but if his training methods are a bit too old fashioned then that would explain why Munster fell out with a coach who got the most out of what the squad had.

No Casey as well. I did wonder whether Munster were going to concentrate on the league but if it's just injuries maybe just a do what you can.

Has Felix Jones not been seen back in the Province yet?

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:28 pm
by paddy no 11
FKAS wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:10 pm
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:14 pm
FKAS wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:55 pm

Is there a lot of injuries for Munster or did they just recruit badly in the summer?
Lot of injuries, mahony, kleyn, nankivill

Our general injury profile Iver 2 years is bad and rumoured to be 1 readon rowntree got moved on
I'd heard rumours he wasn't happy with the recruitment but if his training methods are a bit too old fashioned then that would explain why Munster fell out with a coach who got the most out of what the squad had.

No Casey as well. I did wonder whether Munster were going to concentrate on the league but if it's just injuries maybe just a do what you can.

Has Felix Jones not been seen back in the Province yet?
Yes, the prop issue was the main thing from rowntrees perspective and in fairness he wasn't wrong. All either injured or old.

We signed the south african bueller after he left but rowntree wasn't giving any leeway to sign a prop while leinster got slimani when they were already stacked with props

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:06 am
by FKAS
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:28 pm
FKAS wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:10 pm
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:14 pm

Lot of injuries, mahony, kleyn, nankivill

Our general injury profile Iver 2 years is bad and rumoured to be 1 readon rowntree got moved on
I'd heard rumours he wasn't happy with the recruitment but if his training methods are a bit too old fashioned then that would explain why Munster fell out with a coach who got the most out of what the squad had.

No Casey as well. I did wonder whether Munster were going to concentrate on the league but if it's just injuries maybe just a do what you can.

Has Felix Jones not been seen back in the Province yet?
Yes, the prop issue was the main thing from rowntrees perspective and in fairness he wasn't wrong. All either injured or old.

We signed the south african bueller after he left but rowntree wasn't giving any leeway to sign a prop while leinster got slimani when they were already stacked with props
Yeah I understand the Slimani signing really pissed off a lot of Ulster fans as well as Ulster weren't allowed to sign a prop despite badly needing one whilst Leinster again exempt from the rules the others have to abide to.

Frisch left last season with Toulon paying a fee, Snyman out the door as well. I'd have thought that would have freed up some cash for Munster to go shopping a bit.

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:06 am
by paddy no 11
FKAS wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:06 am
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:28 pm
FKAS wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:10 pm

I'd heard rumours he wasn't happy with the recruitment but if his training methods are a bit too old fashioned then that would explain why Munster fell out with a coach who got the most out of what the squad had.

No Casey as well. I did wonder whether Munster were going to concentrate on the league but if it's just injuries maybe just a do what you can.

Has Felix Jones not been seen back in the Province yet?
Yes, the prop issue was the main thing from rowntrees perspective and in fairness he wasn't wrong. All either injured or old.

We signed the south african bueller after he left but rowntree wasn't giving any leeway to sign a prop while leinster got slimani when they were already stacked with props
Yeah I understand the Slimani signing really pissed off a lot of Ulster fans as well as Ulster weren't allowed to sign a prop despite badly needing one whilst Leinster again exempt from the rules the others have to abide to.

Frisch left last season with Toulon paying a fee, Snyman out the door as well. I'd have thought that would have freed up some cash for Munster to go shopping a bit.
Some rumours that Peter steph is joining but it doesn't matter if we've no props. This could be his agent putting out rumours etc looking for a payday,.......I hadn't realised he's 32

8 million debt on the stadium so some money being feeed up may not go directly on players

We're process of signing leinsters 3rd choice lhp and hooker but these fellas are just filling jerseys rather than making us competitive in Europe

And zero interest from Felixstowe jones

I'd really like us to take a flyer o camille chat, though defeat today ends our European season

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:13 pm
by FKAS
paddy no 11 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:06 am
FKAS wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:06 am
paddy no 11 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:28 pm

Yes, the prop issue was the main thing from rowntrees perspective and in fairness he wasn't wrong. All either injured or old.

We signed the south african bueller after he left but rowntree wasn't giving any leeway to sign a prop while leinster got slimani when they were already stacked with props
Yeah I understand the Slimani signing really pissed off a lot of Ulster fans as well as Ulster weren't allowed to sign a prop despite badly needing one whilst Leinster again exempt from the rules the others have to abide to.

Frisch left last season with Toulon paying a fee, Snyman out the door as well. I'd have thought that would have freed up some cash for Munster to go shopping a bit.
Some rumours that Peter steph is joining but it doesn't matter if we've no props. This could be his agent putting out rumours etc looking for a payday,.......I hadn't realised he's 32

8 million debt on the stadium so some money being feeed up may not go directly on players

We're process of signing leinsters 3rd choice lhp and hooker but these fellas are just filling jerseys rather than making us competitive in Europe

And zero interest from Felixstowe jones

I'd really like us to take a flyer o camille chat, though defeat today ends our European season
Yeah the debt is all secured though so whilst a bit of funding towards servicing that is expected I'd have expected at least one quality name through the door.

Chat would be a great signing, just depends where his head is at. Fighting with your teammates at the Christmas Party and then turning up drunk for training are not positive signs.

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:19 pm
by Danno
This isn't really holding my attention

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:25 pm
by paddy no 11
Munster be happy enough I think, 2nd best but well in touch with gleeson, barron and ahern to come on

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:16 pm
by Captainhaircut
Do like to support English clubs in Europe but had to admit I had a little wry smile when Williams dropped the ball then. Seeing one of the premier English sides give a contract to a nigh on 34 year old Welshman really sticks in the craw.

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:22 pm
by Mikey Brown
Danno wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:19 pm This isn't really holding my attention
Did you look at the names of the two teams before you started watching it?

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:29 pm
by Spiffy
Danno wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:19 pm This isn't really holding my attention
Not pretty rugby - but quite entertaining in a gritty sort of way. Errors galore but a good old slugfest with the result in doubt right to the end.

Re: Munster vs Saracens

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:38 pm
by Danno
Mikey Brown wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:22 pm
Danno wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:19 pm This isn't really holding my attention
Did you look at the names of the two teams before you started watching it?
Ha! Fair