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Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:52 pm
by fivepointer
That was a fine win. We established a bit of control in the 2nd half and finished good winners. We played a bit, showed some enterprise, didnt over commit and generally played with a commonsense that has been sorely lacking in this 6N's.
Hard to find fault with any of the starters. Thought Ewels had an excellent game, Billy maintained his upward trajectory and the 2 wingers never flagged.
That was a very welcome performance.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:54 pm
by tigran
The french commentators were very surprised that the video ref allowed Itoje's try, with Woki's hand under the ball...

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:59 pm
by Raggs
tigran wrote:The french commentators were very surprised that the video ref allowed Itoje's try, with Woki's hand under the ball...
Seemed fairly clear that it was down as he slid across, then got twisted onto Woki's hand.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:02 pm
by Mikey Brown
Yep, was unsure at first but there's stills with a clear contact.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:04 pm
by tigran
Raggs wrote:
tigran wrote:The french commentators were very surprised that the video ref allowed Itoje's try, with Woki's hand under the ball...
Seemed fairly clear that it was down as he slid across, then got twisted onto Woki's hand.

Anyway, great game, I'm not surprised that england threw everything in it, it could have gone either way I guess, great game, and congrats rosbifs

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:13 pm
by Digby
I thought we were going to win when in the 67th minute after Earl got pinged going in at the side to concede a pen on our ball France made a big play through the middle, England forced a knock on and then celebrated almost like they'd won. It seemed clear by then France were struggling

Though count me in the group a little surprised the tmo awarded the try given the on field ruling. Whatever the result mind this was a terrific game from both sides, just fantastic for rugby

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:26 pm
by Bored Falcon
Best England game for a while. Some good performances in there. Still think there are some question marks over our team and direction. but hopefully Eddie has a plan.

Curry should have been MoM imo. he reminds me of this Kiwi 7s in that he can do pretty much everything as is everywhere. I like Wilson but I'd like to get someone else in at six (Underhill now's he's back, earl etc).

Thought Ford looked electric in the last 20. would love to see a ford, Lawrence, joespeh/Marchant backline this summer.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:28 pm
by Bored Falcon
tigran wrote:
Raggs wrote:
tigran wrote:The french commentators were very surprised that the video ref allowed Itoje's try, with Woki's hand under the ball...
Seemed fairly clear that it was down as he slid across, then got twisted onto Woki's hand.

Anyway, great game, I'm not surprised that england threw everything in it, it could have gone either way I guess, great game, and congrats rosbifs
50/50 for me. if I were french I'd be thinking it's one of those games teams have to lose before they grow. Think that french side is only getting better.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:30 pm
by tigran
Bored Falcon wrote:
tigran wrote:
Raggs wrote:
Seemed fairly clear that it was down as he slid across, then got twisted onto Woki's hand.

Anyway, great game, I'm not surprised that england threw everything in it, it could have gone either way I guess, great game, and congrats rosbifs
50/50 for me. if I were french I'd be thinking it's one of those games teams have to lose before they grow. Think that french side is only getting better.
For sure

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:31 pm
by 16th man
Certainly the first game of the Championships that you can imagine causing any sort of ripples in NZ and SA.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:31 pm
by Danno
Happy with that. For all that we've failed to win when we're behind, close a game out or show any attack we managed all 3 to some degree today

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:37 pm
by Beasties
There's a certain solidity about this French team, they don't seem to have the flakiness of every other French team. This is not good news for everyone else.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:51 pm
by Insouciant
Definitely a big improvement for us. Not just the win but the performance generally. There were some dips, errors, knock ons, penalties given away.. but overall this was so much better. I might even watch the game again to understand how we managed it a little better.

I imagine it was a good game for the neutral too. Very open and lots of attacking intent even if the execution wasn't always perfect.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:52 pm
by Banquo
Raggs wrote:
tigran wrote:The french commentators were very surprised that the video ref allowed Itoje's try, with Woki's hand under the ball...
Seemed fairly clear that it was down as he slid across, then got twisted onto Woki's hand.
For sure.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:53 pm
by MrK
16th man wrote:Certainly the first game of the Championships that you can imagine causing any sort of ripples in NZ and SA.
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Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:18 pm
by normanski
Come on. Will you be cheering for France or Wales next week. I have a feeling we have the measure of France after that display.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:21 pm
by Puja
16th man wrote:Certainly the first game of the Championships that you can imagine causing any sort of ripples in NZ and SA.
I'd imagine there are a few puckered arseholes in New Zealand thinking about their opening game of the next RWC.

Overall, that was a great win for us. Not perfect, but we played and beat a very good team and I'm just as pleased with that as I would be beating NZ or SA. Especially pleased with us not giving a penalty away for the first 29 minutes, despite being under some pressure at times - our reputation showed in that we got a warning for a yellow card after just our first penalty (although in fairness, we did commit three offences in the one attack, but still, a little harsh!) and we need to lose that reputation, pronto.

Thought the ref was very good. There were some decisions I didn't agree with, but he was consistent, communicated well, and contributed to a very good game.

Puja

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:23 pm
by Scrumhead
Tough one, but I’ll be cheering for France. I would hate to watch this Welsh team win a Grand Slam.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:27 pm
by Scrumhead
Where are Oakboy and jngf?

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:30 pm
by francoisfou
normanski wrote:Come on. Will you be cheering for France or Wales next week. I have a feeling we have the measure of France after that display.
Dream on, Norm!

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:35 pm
by Puja
Scrumhead wrote:Tough one, but I’ll be cheering for France. I would hate to watch this Welsh team win a Grand Slam.
I live in the West Country, surrounded by Welsh and people who have lived in England all their lives and have no trace of a Welsh accent, but are "Welsh" when they're winning at rugby. I don't hate to watch the Welsh team win a Grand Slam, I'd just hate *hearing* about it.

Just watched the highlights and, quite apart from Itoje definitely getting the nose of the ball down, Woki is a good couple of feet offside when Itoje picks and goes, so justice was done anyway.

Puja

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:36 pm
by francoisfou
From a French point of view, that was an important match in the development of a potentially World Cup winning team. With a bit more nous, the team would surely have earned the win, but a resurgent 2nd half display from the English took the match away from them. So, no complaints from me and let’s come good next Saturday evening and prevent the unthinkable!

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:03 pm
by Digby
I'd have been very close to making Youngs or Curry MoM, but actually the big difference was probably in the end Ford. France didn't organise much if anything in the 2nd half.

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:36 pm
by Peej
Think England got a bit lucky with that last lineout; Hill makes clear contact in the air, way more than the one Ollivon got done for.

Still, a good win after a great game. Though it does mean Wales will probably win the Grand Slam, and that is deeply disappointing

Re: Next up.....France

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:16 pm
by Puja
Digby wrote:I'd have been very close to making Youngs or Curry MoM, but actually the big difference was probably in the end Ford. France didn't organise much if anything in the 2nd half.
I'd actually say Farrell was pretty close - ran some good lines from 12, made good plays coming in at 10, spoke well to the ref, tackled well, made all his kicks including some very tough ones.

Puja