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Italy v France looks set to be a thriller

This is satire, shirley?

p/d wrote:Italy v France looks set to be a thriller

shocking first half from FRance

Do France actually practice midweek?

Larmour dallies a bit too much.

Typical France - start playing at 74 mins. and grab a couple of scores.Before that they looked like 15 taken out of the crowd at random
Schmidt won't be pleased Ire didn't do a complete job.

Banquo wrote:Larmour dallies a bit too much.

Yes - one step too many there. He should have pinned his ears back. Ireland v. sloppy in the last 5 min. Will be hard pushed to beat Wales in Cardiff.

Spiffy wrote:

Banquo wrote:Larmour dallies a bit too much.

Yes - one step too many there. He should have pinned his ears back. Ireland v. sloppy in the last 5 min. Will be hard pushed to beat Wales in Cardiff.

I was more going for the Dally Larmour

coat ordered

Spiffy wrote:

Banquo wrote:Larmour dallies a bit too much.

Yes - one step too many there. He should have pinned his ears back. Ireland v. sloppy in the last 5 min. Will be hard pushed to beat Wales in Cardiff.

First half was impressive though- Sexton much more on it, and Ringrose makes a huuge difference. Aki needs to take his blinkers off! Ryan is a hell of a player.

Banquo wrote:

Spiffy wrote:

Banquo wrote:Larmour dallies a bit too much.

Yes - one step too many there. He should have pinned his ears back. Ireland v. sloppy in the last 5 min. Will be hard pushed to beat Wales in Cardiff.

I was more going for the Dally Larmour

coat ordered

Nice one.
It was an en-chant-ing run; he did make a monk-ey of at least three defenders; but at the end, hadn't a prayer of making it to the line.

Hat/taxi ordered.

Spiffy wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Spiffy wrote:
Yes - one step too many there. He should have pinned his ears back. Ireland v. sloppy in the last 5 min. Will be hard pushed to beat Wales in Cardiff.

I was more going for the Dally Larmour

coat ordered

Nice one.
It was an en-chant-ing run; he did make a monk-ey of at least three defenders; but at the end, hadn't a prayer of making it to the line.

Hat/taxi ordered.

He's an awkward Buddha to put down; be Ireland's 15 for many year...like Tibet on it?

Spiffy wrote:

Banquo wrote:Larmour dallies a bit too much.

Yes - one step too many there. He should have pinned his ears back. Ireland v. sloppy in the last 5 min. Will be hard pushed to beat Wales in Cardiff.

I think you guys are a better team than Wales in all honesty. But Cardiff factor is worth something and they have seemingly ‘forgotten how to lose’ (for now).

Back on thread; my team for Scotland is j likely to surprise anyone.

Genge, George, Sinkler
Itoje, Kruis
Wilson, Vunipola, Curry

Robson, Ford
Tuilagi, Joseph
May, Daly, Cokanasiga

Moon, LCD, Cole, Launchbury, Mercer
Young's, Farrell, Nowell

Quite honestly, my "everyone fit" team only brings Mako and Watson in to start from that, with Genge and Daly moving to the bench, and maybe Hartley joining them there (I'd also love Slade to be a genuine option at 12, to allow horses form ourselves selection between the 2 centres)

Which Tyler wrote:Back on thread; my team for Scotland is j likely to surprise anyone.

Genge, George, Sinkler
Itoje, Kruis
Wilson, Vunipola, Curry

Robson, Ford
Tuilagi, Joseph
May, Daly, Cokanasiga

Moon, LCD, Cole, Launchbury, Mercer
Young's, Farrell, Nowell

Quite honestly, my "everyone fit" team only brings Mako and Watson in to start from that, with Genge and Daly moving to the bench, and maybe Hartley joining them there (I'd also love Slade to be a genuine option at 12, to allow horses form ourselves selection between the 2 centres)

With you all the way WT. Though I'd be hard pushed to not have Daly on the wing in fully fit mode. (where Lawes would also get the nod over Launchbury for me on current form).
Incidentally, I hear a whisper that JJ is not popular with the current England squad, which I'd kind of thought when Eddie was leaving him out occasionally....any local insight?

Coaches or players?

I absolutely see the call for Daly upon the wing instead of Coka, but Daly, May and Watson mix a bit of a one-track pony, however good that trick is. Coka just brings something different, as well as being damned good at that trick. For now, I want Coka getting every international minute he can, by the time we get to RWC QFs, he's either settled in a bit and gotten used to defensive systems, or he drops to the bench (or out, with Nowell there).

Current form? yeah Lawes > Launch. Ultimate class? Launch > All. Most complimentary combination? Itoje & Kruis

JJ - news to me, and even when Eddie started dropping him then IIRC, it was only ever for Te'o and only ever against Italy. I always thought it said more about Eddie's love of Te'o than anything against JJ.

Which Tyler wrote:I absolutely see the call for Daly upon the wing instead of Coka, but Daly, May and Watson mix a bit of a one-track pony, however good that trick is. Coka just brings something different, as well as being damned good at that trick. For now, I want Coka getting every international minute he can, by the time we get to RWC QFs, he's either settled in a bit and gotten used to defensive systems, or he drops to the bench (or out, with Nowell there).

Current form? yeah Lawes > Launch. Ultimate class? Launch > All. Most complimentary combination? Itoje & Kruis

JJ - news to me, and even when Eddie started dropping him then IIRC, it was only ever for Te'o and only ever against Italy. I always thought it said more about Eddie's love of Te'o than anything against JJ.

I might have Daly ahead of all of them, he's more finesse, so you've created a different strawman . If Coka gets games and continues to shine, it could be Daly, Coka, Watson. However, daft debate whilst Watson is not fit. (gotten??? come on man)
Launch actually hasn't been class for a while, and I'm a huge fan....and his restarts are just bad. I certainly don't think he's better than Itoje.

Good source on JJ, and explains some things imo.

Banquo wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:I absolutely see the call for Daly upon the wing instead of Coka, but Daly, May and Watson mix a bit of a one-track pony, however good that trick is. Coka just brings something different, as well as being damned good at that trick. For now, I want Coka getting every international minute he can, by the time we get to RWC QFs, he's either settled in a bit and gotten used to defensive systems, or he drops to the bench (or out, with Nowell there).

Current form? yeah Lawes > Launch. Ultimate class? Launch > All. Most complimentary combination? Itoje & Kruis

JJ - news to me, and even when Eddie started dropping him then IIRC, it was only ever for Te'o and only ever against Italy. I always thought it said more about Eddie's love of Te'o than anything against JJ.

I might have Daly ahead of all of them, he's more finesse, so you've created a different strawman . If Coka gets games and continues to shine, it could be Daly, Coka, Watson. However, daft debate whilst Watson is not fit. (gotten??? come on man)
Launch actually hasn't been class for a while, and I'm a huge fan....and his restarts are just bad. I certainly don't think he's better than Itoje.

Good source on JJ, and explains some things imo.

Surely, May is our most dangerous back, statistically? Watson and Coka are only memory/potential respectively. Both could become the bees knees but Watson might need months to fully regain form and Coka has not proved anything against top opposition yet.

If we were playing NZ tomorrow, I'd want Daly and May on the wings.

Genge
George
Sinckler
Itoje (assuming fit)
Kruis
Wilson
Curry
Vunipola

Robson
Ford
May
Tuilagi
Joseph
Cokanasiga
Daly

LCD
Hepburn
Thomas
Launch
Willis
Care
Farrell
Slade

Good call on Willis.

If we're being honest about what we're likely to see, I think it'd just be good to see Genge over Moon, Itoje if fit, Wilson and Curry, Tuilagi and Slade. With Nowell on the bench and no Te'o in sight.

But it would be lovely to see Willis involved, Ford starting, Robson starting, Joseph back in the 23...Clifford involved, too.

Oakboy wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:I absolutely see the call for Daly upon the wing instead of Coka, but Daly, May and Watson mix a bit of a one-track pony, however good that trick is. Coka just brings something different, as well as being damned good at that trick. For now, I want Coka getting every international minute he can, by the time we get to RWC QFs, he's either settled in a bit and gotten used to defensive systems, or he drops to the bench (or out, with Nowell there).

Current form? yeah Lawes > Launch. Ultimate class? Launch > All. Most complimentary combination? Itoje & Kruis

JJ - news to me, and even when Eddie started dropping him then IIRC, it was only ever for Te'o and only ever against Italy. I always thought it said more about Eddie's love of Te'o than anything against JJ.

I might have Daly ahead of all of them, he's more finesse, so you've created a different strawman . If Coka gets games and continues to shine, it could be Daly, Coka, Watson. However, daft debate whilst Watson is not fit. (gotten??? come on man)
Launch actually hasn't been class for a while, and I'm a huge fan....and his restarts are just bad. I certainly don't think he's better than Itoje.

Good source on JJ, and explains some things imo.

Surely, May is our most dangerous back, statistically? Watson and Coka are only memory/potential respectively. Both could become the bees knees but Watson might need months to fully regain form and Coka has not proved anything against top opposition yet.

If we were playing NZ tomorrow, I'd want Daly and May on the wings.

Who would be at 15?
If you had read what I said, it was conditional on Coka continuing to shine, and hypothetical as Watson isn't fit. May has been terrific, but I think Daly offers so much in the backfield, he'd be first name down for me. The rest then take their chances.

Dors!! Can’t believe you have so readily dismissed Solomona after championing him in the Autumn

This has all gotten rather silly

Spiffy wrote:

Banquo wrote:Larmour dallies a bit too much.

Yes - one step too many there. He should have pinned his ears back. Ireland v. sloppy in the last 5 min. Will be hard pushed to beat Wales in Cardiff.

Ireland were sloppy in the last 75

Why pick Robson and Ford? It's clear Farrell is going start barring injury and you've seen plenty of Ford so why not see if you can cope if Youngs goes lame - obviously you should be looking for an alternative but that's not a realistic hope.