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Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:40 pm
by Which Tyler
Bayliss may have the top speed of a winger, but not the acceleration, dexterity or instincts
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:42 pm
by Adam_P
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:40 pm
Bayliss may have the top speed of a winger, but not the acceleration, dexterity or instincts
The positional play is where he's going to be most found out. You can have all the physical attributes of a good winger, but without playing there regularly it's not second nature where to be when
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:43 pm
by Which Tyler
I was about to say the ref called the wrong offence - but he was right, never held in the tackle, so allowed to crawl.
Just not allowed to keep hold of the ball once actually tackled.
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:43 pm
by Which Tyler
Adam_P wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:42 pm
The positional play is where he's going to be most found out. You can have all the physical attributes of a good winger, but without playing there regularly it's not second nature where to be when
That's a lot of what I was meaning by "instincts"
Pepper looking very uncomfortable in the stands - though may have been grimacing about the play
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:47 pm
by Adam_P
There goes my fantasy team captain, thanks Lawrence
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:50 pm
by Captainhaircut
It’s round that time that England will start getting a load of injuries. Looks like wing may be the position this year. IFW, sleightholme, Muir and Hendy all injured here.
Worst thing about it is that it will mean zero chance of Freeman playing 13.
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:09 pm
by Which Tyler
RR: can't play Lawrence at 12, or Marcus at 15 as they just don't play there.
Also RR: why isn't Borthwick playing 12. Steward, 13. Freeman, it's just so obvious.
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:28 pm
by Adam_P
That's surely crossing? He's infront of the ball carrier when the collision with Dingwall happens
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:29 pm
by Which Tyler
Since when is running upright, whilst inside, foul play?
ETA, rightly dismissed by the ref.
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:30 pm
by Which Tyler
Adam_P wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:28 pm
That's surely crossing? He's infront of the ball carrier when the collision with Dingwall happens
Errr. What now?
He's behind the ball carrier until approximately 1/10 of a second before the head contact, because the ball carrier is tackled and has his momentum taken away
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:31 pm
by Adam_P
He's obstructed Dingwall in tackling Lawrence, whilst being in front of Lawrence. That is crossing.
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:32 pm
by Mikey Brown
Vintage Monye there - "He's like a human guillotine. He cut him in half."
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:40 pm
by Which Tyler
Adam_P wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:31 pm
He's obstructed Dingwall in tackling Lawrence, whilst being in front of Lawrence. That is crossing.
After the tackle had been made, and whilst he was unconscious, you mean?
Because he was behind Lawrence until OL had been tackled
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:41 pm
by Adam_P
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:40 pm
Adam_P wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:31 pm
He's obstructed Dingwall in tackling Lawrence, whilst being in front of Lawrence. That is crossing.
After the tackle had been made, and he was unconscious, you mean?
Because he was behind Lawrence until OL had been tackled
Not tackled by Dingwall
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:42 pm
by Which Tyler
And your point is?
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:45 pm
by Adam_P
The tackle wasn't completed at the time the crossing occurred
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:47 pm
by Which Tyler
At what point do you want him to step outside the laws of physics?
Or is your complaint that he should have had better control of the way he fell whilst unconscious?
ETA, sorry everyone else. I'll leave this conversation now, it's obvious that neither of us are going to convince the other.
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:48 pm
by Mikey Brown
This must be some sort of record for HIAs in a single game.
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:49 pm
by Mikey Brown
Lawrence is staying on?! He just stopped running and collapsed to his knees???
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:51 pm
by Adam_P
Should Mitchell have defied the laws of physics to get out of the way of Lawrence there? Fouls can be committed by players being in the wrong place at the wrong time
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:53 pm
by Adam_P
Thank God, we needed that win. Quality game. Shame about the injuries all round.
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:56 pm
by Puja
Am very glad Saints won that. That was a terrible decision to yellow Mitchell, given it was exactly the same a s the Coetzee head contact except the runner was given the pass, and I can't help but feel that Lawrence went down like a footballer to deliberately make sure he got the penalty.
Puja
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:59 pm
by paddy no 11
What we're bath doing, playing at a restart that was dropping short and would have been a scrum back and then giving away a penalty in front of the posts when the ref is shouting at you NO
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:59 pm
by Adam_P
Puja wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:56 pm
Am very glad Saints won that. That was a terrible decision to yellow Mitchell, given it was exactly the same a s the Coetzee head contact except the runner was given the pass, and I can't help but feel that Lawrence went down like a footballer to deliberately make sure he got the penalty.
Puja
I find Lawrence a bit unlikeable. Laughing as Hendy went off injured after his late tucked arm tackle was a bellend move too.
Re: Northampton v Bath; Sunday, 3.00
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 5:07 pm
by Adam_P
With all the recent back 3 injuries for England, Bailey didn't do himself any harm during that game. Positionally very good.