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Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:26 pm
by 16th man
Not remotely a late tackle.

Ref may as well have asked the video ref to find him a reason to give a pen.

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:27 pm
by Mellsblue
Digby wrote:The high tackle was high, but it's worrying the ref thinks that late, and the TMO thinks it late too, how?
If it is late, Lawes needs a new career.

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:28 pm
by Digby
I fail to see how they don't score here

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:30 pm
by 16th man
He's finished that well.

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:30 pm
by padprop
Their number 8 should be shot for not keeping that ball in the scrum

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:31 pm
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:
Digby wrote:The high tackle was high, but it's worrying the ref thinks that late, and the TMO thinks it late too, how?
If it is late, Lawes needs a new career.
Not even that, think back to Marcus Smith getting his hands through the tackle earlier and the white carrier was already being tackled before the ball was gathered. That's a knock on and fair enough, and it didn't make any difference in this instance, but it's a weird opinion for anyone to think that late never mind some supposed trained officials

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:31 pm
by Mellsblue
Yep. Good try. Would’ve been scored a few secs earlier if the French no8 had kept his cool.

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:32 pm
by Digby
padprop wrote:Their number 8 should be shot for not keeping that ball in the scrum
I was hoping I'd be able to post they didn't score as some idiot picked early from the scrum

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:32 pm
by Renniks
So many questionable decisions by the ref

Their 7 didn't seem on his feet
Tackle in the air was a yellow all day long
Tackle wasn't late (not that it mattered… but it might if he gets penalised again)
I'm pretty sure there was an early tackle when Smith offloaded it

We're stringing together some nice play, but the French scrum is ridiculous and they should win this

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:33 pm
by Renniks
Also, the difference between how Curry speaks to the ref and Farrell is amazing. Can we just get him in as captain?

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:35 pm
by padprop
I really hope we do get both Curry's involved, as from what ive seen Ben seems to be a bit more skillful and an offloader and Tom a bit more physical. You'd think theyd really push eachother on

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:38 pm
by Digby
France not even bothering to try and get onside, if that's fatigue we might still do okay.

(Fwiw I don't think the tackle in the air was worth a yellow)

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:40 pm
by 16th man
French miles offside again there.

Looks like we could do with a chat about not forcing offloads when they aren't on.

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:41 pm
by 16th man
Oh, you've spotted that one then ref?

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:42 pm
by Warrior85
The refereeing is atrocious!

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:48 pm
by Mellsblue
Boom. Those boys know how to build pressure by running through the phases. Are the senior team watching?

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:50 pm
by Digby
Looks like it's going to come down to who has more in the tank and/or the better bench. Lots of slow play from both sides at the end there

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:50 pm
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:Boom. Those boys know how to build pressure by running through the phases. Are the senior team watching?
SA used a cunning ploy by moving in defence, which France don't do so much

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:53 pm
by Oakboy
The irony is that I've been shouting at the TV 3 or 4 times about French tackling without the ball and then the TMO penalises our 1st one.

Important try to take us to a 6 point gap. We can win this. The Feench will tire.

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:54 pm
by Renniks
That turn over, I'd be absolutely over the moon if our player did it, but all I see is his hands on the floor, his knee down, and not a clear release with both arms… (Biased)

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:55 pm
by Oakboy
Warrior85 wrote:The refereeing is atrocious!
One hesitates to talk about quotas but is the guy really up to it? He has looked a bit lost at times.

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:58 pm
by fivepointer
We're doing a lot of things well. Nice attacking shape, creating the odd opening, and defending really well. Outside of the scrum we are looking very good.

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:03 pm
by Mellsblue
Oakboy wrote:
Warrior85 wrote:The refereeing is atrocious!
One hesitates to talk about quotas but is the guy really up to it? He has looked a bit lost at times.
The only quota will be to get as many ex-players into the referee ranks regardless of quality.

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:05 pm
by Renniks
Surely taken back in there?

Re: England U20 EPS Squad 2017/18

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:06 pm
by Mellsblue
Renniks wrote:Surely taken back in there?
Yep