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Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:05 pm
by fivepointer
Curtis Langdon at Sale is very good.
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:12 pm
by Mellsblue
jimKRFC wrote:Epaminondas Pules wrote:jimKRFC wrote:As far as hooker goes I don't see a lot of value on LCD going, Eddie knows exactly what he can offer. I'd take Dunn as the starter with Barbeary and Capon as the up & comers. Give Dunn 60 minutes (to show is stuff rather 2 minutes) then 20 minutes to young ones to see how they go. Barbeary could also appeal as a utility 2/8 player.
Personally I'd put Capon ahead of Barbeary at 2 as he's actually played there in the premiership - appreciate that Barbeary offers better carrying, but will be interesting to see if he retains that whilst at 2.
LCD going (if he doesn't travel to SA) would be an opportunity to see if he can lift up into a leadership role. He's a very quiet 'does talking through action' type of character.
True, suppose it depends if Dunn did enough in his 2 minutes to write himself off in Eddies' eyes.
I think the fact that he got so little game time is proof that Jones doesn’t think he’s good enough regardless of what he does on the pitch.
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:26 pm
by Peej
There's definitely something in this. If Eddie has looked at you, and decided that you aren't up to much, is he going to pick you again when the first cabs off the rank are away, or go with someone else? I don't think LCD is a Lion, so he will be around should Eddie want him, and then which other two will he pick? Think the same thing will happen with 9s, where Robson won't be picked to tour.
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:53 pm
by Oakboy
fivepointer wrote:Curtis Langdon at Sale is very good.
Agreed. I mentioned him early in this thread but the lack of reaction presumably means others don't agree. He looks sharper and physically tougher in the loose than Dunn to me - based only on a game and a few bits admittedly. There's just something feisty about him that looks worth a try.
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:30 pm
by Scrumhead
I like Langdon too, I just forgot him! Might be slightly controversial, but I actually think Sale look better when he starts as hooker. Certainly improves their lineout anyway ...
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:45 pm
by FKAS
Oakboy wrote:fivepointer wrote:Curtis Langdon at Sale is very good.
Agreed. I mentioned him early in this thread but the lack of reaction presumably means others don't agree. He looks sharper and physically tougher in the loose than Dunn to me - based only on a game and a few bits admittedly. There's just something feisty about him that looks worth a try.
He's one with a lot of potential. Looks a bit raw and I've seen him five away a few unnecessary penalties, England do enough of that already. I wouldn't take him instead of Dunn but I certainly thing there's a case for him to be one of the (presumably) three hookers for the summer tour squad. Eddie does like his hookers big which is why I assume Dunn doesn't get as many minutes as he should and Langdon is a similar size to Dunn. Not that either of them are small.
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:56 pm
by Scrumhead
I wouldn’t have said Dunn is notably small. If he is, he definitely punches above his weight.
I rate him very highly and I’d really like to see him get the summer tour to show his worth.
Until Barbeary starts playing at hooker and shows he has the set piece game to match the rest of his skill set, Dunn is still easily our 3rd best hooker IMO.
Langdon is a good shout although I do think Capon has a higher ceiling.
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:03 pm
by Peej
What has happened to Singleton? Is he injured?
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:22 pm
by Timbo
Peej wrote:What has happened to Singleton? Is he injured?
Yes, he was out a while, came back to play one game and was then out injured again. He was just starting to play really well before his first injury. Had a great game vs Exeter around Christmas time, if memory serves.
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:57 pm
by Banquo
Scrumhead wrote:I wouldn’t have said Dunn is notably small. If he is, he definitely punches above his weight.
I rate him very highly and I’d really like to see him get the summer tour to show his worth.
Until Barbeary starts playing at hooker and shows he has the set piece game to match the rest of his skill set, Dunn is still easily our 3rd best hooker IMO.
Langdon is a good shout although I do think Capon has a higher ceiling.
suspect he's somewhat taller and maybe even wider than LCD.
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:45 pm
by fivepointer
Dunn is probably bigger and heavier than both LCD and George. He was told to go away and build bulk and power and he's done just that.
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:14 am
by FKAS
Scrumhead wrote:I wouldn’t have said Dunn is notably small. If he is, he definitely punches above his weight.
I'd say Dunn is normal size for a hooker whereas LCD and George are prop sized. Eddie seems to like that he had Hartley before who was a converted prop as well as LCD.
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:48 pm
by Mikey Brown
I thought LCD was a lot lighter looking recently.
Re: (Hypothetical) Tour Squad
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:53 pm
by Digby
That seems to happen to a number of players in an England camp, not being at home sorting their own food, doing the intensity of test match prep and they go down in bra size as a response