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U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 2:40 pm
by Banquo
http://www.englandrugby.com/news/haag-n ... mpionship/

England squad for World Rugby U20 Championship:

Sam Aspland-Robinson (Harlequins)
Darren Atkins (Bath Rugby)
Josh Bainbridge (Yorkshire Carnegie)
Lewis Boyce (Yorkshire Carnegie)
Theo Brophy-Clews (London Irish)
Callum Chick (Newcastle Falcons)
Will Evans (Leicester Tigers)
Matt Gallagher (Saracens)
Max Green (Yorkshire Carnegie)
Billy Keast (Exeter Chiefs)
Andrew Kitchener (Worcester Warriors)
Max Malins (Saracens)
Harry Mallinder (Northampton Saints)
Joe Marchant (Harlequins)
Zach Mercer (Bath Rugby)
George Nott (Sale Sharks)
George Perkins (Saracens)
Harry Randall (Gloucester Rugby)
Jack Singleton (Worcester Warriors)
Stan South (Harlequins)
Will Stuart (Wasps)
Huw Taylor (Worcester Warriors)
Ollie Thorley (Gloucester Rugby)
Billy Walker (Saracens)
Jack Walker (Yorkshire Carnegie)
Tom West (Wasps)
Johnny Williams (London Irish)
Jack Willis (Wasps)

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 4:12 pm
by Oakboy
I know next to nothing about those lads. Who are the stars we should look out for?

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 4:28 pm
by Mellsblue
Oakboy wrote:I know next to nothing about those lads. Who are the stars we should look out for?
George Perkins has looked very good at Bedford this season. Serious wheels.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 4:41 pm
by Timbo
No Protheroe? Thought he was the great hope of English/Welsh rugby?

No Underhill is a shame. Would have liked to have seen him tear it up at this level. But Will Evans is a pretty special talent at 7 too.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 4:43 pm
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote:I know next to nothing about those lads. Who are the stars we should look out for?
Mallinder and Williams you must have seen?

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:00 pm
by TheNomad
Timbo wrote:No Protheroe? Thought he was the great hope of English/Welsh rugby?

No Underhill is a shame. Would have liked to have seen him tear it up at this level. But Will Evans is a pretty special talent at 7 too.
Underhill presumably with the Saxons. My hunch is it would have been better for him to have a go at this level, but I'd trust the managements judgement

Not sure where Protheroe is...maybe he's done a Moriarty!

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:01 pm
by TheNomad
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:I know next to nothing about those lads. Who are the stars we should look out for?
Mallinder and Williams you must have seen?
Mallinder had another eye catching game on the weekend. He looks a real prospect

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:06 pm
by Timbo
TheNomad wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:I know next to nothing about those lads. Who are the stars we should look out for?
Mallinder and Williams you must have seen?
Mallinder had another eye catching game on the weekend. He looks a real prospect
Reckon we could see a Brophy Clews-Williams-Marchant midfield with Mallinder at 15? That's pretty strong on paper.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:12 pm
by Tigersman
Oakboy wrote:I know next to nothing about those lads. Who are the stars we should look out for?
Will Evans, Mallinder, Williams, Perkins are the main stand outs for me.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:20 pm
by TheNomad
Timbo wrote:
TheNomad wrote:
Banquo wrote: Mallinder and Williams you must have seen?
Mallinder had another eye catching game on the weekend. He looks a real prospect
Reckon we could see a Brophy Clews-Williams-Marchant midfield with Mallinder at 15? That's pretty strong on paper.
Yeah - I think Mallinder's a 12 long term but with a view to getting our best players on the pitch, I think that works. The backs look like a good unit.

Not sure the pack is quite up to previous years' standards though, as evidenced by a fairly poor 6Ns

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:36 pm
by Tigersman
Protheroe isn't qualified to play for England in the JRWC.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 6:26 pm
by fivepointer
B-C, Williams and Mallinder will raise the level of this side significantly. Pack seems pretty solid without anyone looking like the next Paul Hill, Clifford or Itoje. Evans is new to the squad and he does look a very good prospect at openside.

My worry is SH. Green looked very ordinary in the 6N's, while Randall (who looks all of 14) is stepping up an age group. Good player, though, so here's hoping he can prosper.

England will be better than they were during the 6N's. They cannot fail to be.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 7:05 pm
by Which Tyler
Tigersman wrote:Protheroe isn't qualified to play for England in the JRWC.
Last time I checked (during the 6N); there were no qualification criteria to play for England at the JRWC. Qualification requirements only apply to countries who nominate their kids as their second senior team.
Basically that comes down to the gentleman's agreement, of "if he plays in England, he's eligible for England"

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:46 pm
by Tigersman
Which Tyler wrote:
Tigersman wrote:Protheroe isn't qualified to play for England in the JRWC.
Last time I checked (during the 6N); there were no qualification criteria to play for England at the JRWC. Qualification requirements only apply to countries who nominate their kids as their second senior team.
Basically that comes down to the gentleman's agreement, of "if he plays in England, he's eligible for England"

Nope I'm right

6N's = No Criteria
JRWC = Normal Criteria

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/m ... ligibility

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... r-10877585

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:10 pm
by Which Tyler
I sit corrected then.

I'd guess that I was looking at IRB regulations, rather than competition rules.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:52 pm
by Oakboy
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:I know next to nothing about those lads. Who are the stars we should look out for?
Mallinder and Williams you must have seen?
Yes, but that's it. I haven't seen any u20 matches this season.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:03 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Players to look out for?

Obviously Mallinder, Williams, Marchant, Evans and Jack Walker.

Brophy-Clews is a very classy fly half.

Josh Bainbridge an all action flanker who's been getting great reviews at Leeds. Lewis Boyce is another very good front row prospect.

Both 8's are good prospects. Going to be a good contest to see who starts. I'd say Chick flanked by Evans and Bainbridge with Mercer on the bench.

Matt Gallagher, son of John the All Black is one to watch.

Harry Randall may be U18, about 3 stone dripping wet but he's a hell of a prospect!

Surprised Prell didn't make the cut, but then back three is a tough call.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:08 pm
by Lizard
I didn't realise Kipper had a son who played at that level.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:13 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Lizard wrote:I didn't realise Kipper had a son who played at that level.
He's a decent player too. Predominantly a fullback, but can play wing too.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 2:11 am
by Lizard
I'll keep an eye out for him.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 2:24 am
by padprop
Epaminondas Pules wrote:Players to look out for?

Obviously Mallinder, Williams, Marchant, Evans and Jack Walker.

Brophy-Clews is a very classy fly half.

Josh Bainbridge an all action flanker who's been getting great reviews at Leeds. Lewis Boyce is another very good front row prospect.

Both 8's are good prospects. Going to be a good contest to see who starts. I'd say Chick flanked by Evans and Bainbridge with Mercer on the bench.

Matt Gallagher, son of John the All Black is one to watch.

Harry Randall may be U18, about 3 stone dripping wet but he's a hell of a prospect!

Surprised Prell didn't make the cut, but then back three is a tough call.
Harry Randall = 5'3" and 8 stone according to Gloucester academy webpage. Takes a serious pair of melons to play this level of rugby at that size.

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 6:59 am
by Epaminondas Pules
padprop wrote:
Epaminondas Pules wrote:Players to look out for?

Obviously Mallinder, Williams, Marchant, Evans and Jack Walker.

Brophy-Clews is a very classy fly half.

Josh Bainbridge an all action flanker who's been getting great reviews at Leeds. Lewis Boyce is another very good front row prospect.

Both 8's are good prospects. Going to be a good contest to see who starts. I'd say Chick flanked by Evans and Bainbridge with Mercer on the bench.

Matt Gallagher, son of John the All Black is one to watch.

Harry Randall may be U18, about 3 stone dripping wet but he's a hell of a prospect!

Surprised Prell didn't make the cut, but then back three is a tough call.
Harry Randall = 5'3" and 8 stone according to Gloucester academy webpage. Takes a serious pair of melons to play this level of rugby at that size.
Latest has him about 10.5 stone. I think that was a very wet day ;)

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 8:21 am
by Mikey Brown
He's a scrum-half I hope/assume?

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 8:41 am
by twitchy
Imagine being his parents. I can't believe they have much hair left.

http://www.gloucesterrugby.co.uk/rugby/ ... ef=dynamic

Re: U20 squad

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 9:18 am
by Epaminondas Pules
Mikey Brown wrote:He's a scrum-half I hope/assume?
Certainly is. Lightening quick, but has a good head for when to go and when to pass. Good whippy pass too.