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Loan watch
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 1:09 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Thought it might be interesting to see where young talent is playing whilst navigating the move into adult rugby.
Leicester Tigers:
Nottingham Rugby
Archie van der Flier (Prop)
Charlie Myall (Centre)
Leicester Lions
Tubuna Maka (Prop)
Cam Miell (Prop)
Tom Threlfall (Fly-half)
Charlie Davies (Centre)
George Pearson (Fullback)
Loughborough
Monty Loggenberg (Flanker)
Ollie Allan (Scrum-half)
Jack Kinder (Outside-back)
Bath University
Henry Mountford (Prop)
Nottingham Trent University
Bronson Mellowes (Prop)
Durham University
Osian Thomas (Flanker)
Hartpury University
Owen Popple (Prop)
Harry Beddall (Flanker)
Charlie Bemand (Scrum-half)
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:05 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Bath*:
Hartpury RFC
Will Jeanes
Thompson Cowan
Rams
Ioan Emanuel
Luke Graham
Doncaster Knights
Arthur Green
Bath University
Tyler Offiah
Kepu Tuipulotu
Jack Woods
Ieuan Davies
Max Pearce
James Short
Enoch Opoku-Gyamfi
Tom Hilton
Leeds Beckett University
Abdul-Khalik Akenzua Al-Kareem
*think this is right. Which please correct any mistakes
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:13 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Harlequins:
London Scottish
Archie White
Tom Osborne
Harry Browne
Hayden Hyde
Jack Musk
Caleb Ashworth
Ben Waghorn
Chinnor
Connor Slevin
Ethan Clarke
Richmond
Lucas Schmid
Frank McMillan
Dorking
Tom Golder
Worthing
Ollie Streeter
Jimmy Staples
Esher
Charlie Clare
Exeter University
Conor Byrne
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:56 pm
by FKAS
This week sees Van Der Flier, Myall and Manz joined on loan at Notts by Ilione.
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:11 pm
by Puja
FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:56 pm
This week sees Van Der Flier, Myall and Manz joined on loan at Notts by Ilione.
Oh FFS. It must be something that the coaches are seeing, cause that's about the seventh Leicester coach in a row who seemingly doesn't rate him.
Puja
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:59 pm
by FKAS
Puja wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:11 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:56 pm
This week sees Van Der Flier, Myall and Manz joined on loan at Notts by Ilione.
Oh FFS. It must be something that the coaches are seeing, cause that's about the seventh Leicester coach in a row who seemingly doesn't rate him.
Puja
If he picked up a knock to miss the game last week then getting him out on loan to get some game time makes sense. I don't mind it so much this week as we aren't playing a plodder at 7 and against Bath it's not a bad idea to have additional physicality on the bench. He better get some more game time than last season, bloody ridiculous how little game time he got under McKellar. The season before that he did have an injury.
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:05 pm
by Banquo
Be interested in Sarries to Ampthill after Easter’s comments on Twitter. They, Scottish and Nottingham are tekkin the piss somewhat, given the Champ informal agreement
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:11 pm
by FKAS
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:05 pm
Be interested in Sarries to Ampthill after Easter’s comments on Twitter. They, Scottish and Nottingham are tekkin the piss somewhat, given the Champ informal agreement
What agreement is that?
Starting XV
1 Richard Barrington (vc) 2. James Hadfield 3. Harvey Beaton 4. Kennedy Sylvester 5. Kaden Pearce-Paul 6. Olamide Sodeke 7. Max Eke 8. Lekima Ravuvu 9. Rory Morgan 10. Josh Barton (c) 11. Brandon Jackson 12. Josh Hallett 13. Angus Hall 14. Imi Qorowale 15. Oran McNulty
Replacements
16 James Isaacs 17. James Flynn 18. Dom Hardman 19. Aidan King 20. Karl Main 21. Decland Murphy 22. Evan Mitchell 23. Fraser Strachan
Is the starting team for Ampthill. Hatfield, Sodeke and Hall are all Sarries aren't they? I think Beaton left Sarries in the summer.
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:12 pm
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:11 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:05 pm
Be interested in Sarries to Ampthill after Easter’s comments on Twitter. They, Scottish and Nottingham are tekkin the piss somewhat, given the Champ informal agreement
What agreement is that?
Starting XV
1 Richard Barrington (vc) 2. James Hadfield 3. Harvey Beaton 4. Kennedy Sylvester 5. Kaden Pearce-Paul 6. Olamide Sodeke 7. Max Eke 8. Lekima Ravuvu 9. Rory Morgan 10. Josh Barton (c) 11. Brandon Jackson 12. Josh Hallett 13. Angus Hall 14. Imi Qorowale 15. Oran McNulty
Replacements
16 James Isaacs 17. James Flynn 18. Dom Hardman 19. Aidan King 20. Karl Main 21. Decland Murphy 22. Evan Mitchell 23. Fraser Strachan
Is the starting team for Ampthill. Hatfield, Sodeke and Hall are all Sarries aren't they? I think Beaton left Sarries in the summer.
Informal sign up to no more than 6 loan players in match day squad. Clearly not adhered to
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:13 am
by FKAS
Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:12 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:11 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:05 pm
Be interested in Sarries to Ampthill after Easter’s comments on Twitter. They, Scottish and Nottingham are tekkin the piss somewhat, given the Champ informal agreement
What agreement is that?
Starting XV
1 Richard Barrington (vc) 2. James Hadfield 3. Harvey Beaton 4. Kennedy Sylvester 5. Kaden Pearce-Paul 6. Olamide Sodeke 7. Max Eke 8. Lekima Ravuvu 9. Rory Morgan 10. Josh Barton (c) 11. Brandon Jackson 12. Josh Hallett 13. Angus Hall 14. Imi Qorowale 15. Oran McNulty
Replacements
16 James Isaacs 17. James Flynn 18. Dom Hardman 19. Aidan King 20. Karl Main 21. Decland Murphy 22. Evan Mitchell 23. Fraser Strachan
Is the starting team for Ampthill. Hatfield, Sodeke and Hall are all Sarries aren't they? I think Beaton left Sarries in the summer.
Informal sign up to no more than 6 loan players in match day squad. Clearly not adhered to
Notts and Ampthill had I think four a piece so that would be in keeping. Admittedly I might be missing more Sarries players for Ampthill but Notts have only borrowed Van Der Flier, Manz ,Ilione and Myall (good result for Notts).
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:17 pm
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:13 am
Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:12 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:11 pm
What agreement is that?
Starting XV
1 Richard Barrington (vc) 2. James Hadfield 3. Harvey Beaton 4. Kennedy Sylvester 5. Kaden Pearce-Paul 6. Olamide Sodeke 7. Max Eke 8. Lekima Ravuvu 9. Rory Morgan 10. Josh Barton (c) 11. Brandon Jackson 12. Josh Hallett 13. Angus Hall 14. Imi Qorowale 15. Oran McNulty
Replacements
16 James Isaacs 17. James Flynn 18. Dom Hardman 19. Aidan King 20. Karl Main 21. Decland Murphy 22. Evan Mitchell 23. Fraser Strachan
Is the starting team for Ampthill. Hatfield, Sodeke and Hall are all Sarries aren't they? I think Beaton left Sarries in the summer.
Informal sign up to no more than 6 loan players in match day squad. Clearly not adhered to
Notts and Ampthill had I think four a piece so that would be in keeping. Admittedly I might be missing more Sarries players for Ampthill but Notts have only borrowed Van Der Flier, Manz ,Ilione and Myall (good result for Notts).
Ampthill had 7 sarries from 1-10 when I stopped counting. Easter did some top trolling!
https://x.com/nick_easter/status/1839639476634579172
Scottish have at least 8 quins in their starting xv most weeks. When we played Ampthill at home last year, they had 8 sarries starters, plus two loan players from Ospreys, and they then brought on 3 more Sarries.
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:29 pm
by FKAS
Banquo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:17 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:13 am
Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:12 pm
Informal sign up to no more than 6 loan players in match day squad. Clearly not adhered to
Notts and Ampthill had I think four a piece so that would be in keeping. Admittedly I might be missing more Sarries players for Ampthill but Notts have only borrowed Van Der Flier, Manz ,Ilione and Myall (good result for Notts).
Ampthill had 7 sarries from 1-10 when I stopped counting. Easter did some top trolling!
https://x.com/nick_easter/status/1839639476634579172
Scottish have at least 8 quins in their starting xv most weeks. When we played Ampthill at home last year, they had 8 sarries starters, plus two loan players from Ospreys, and they then brought on 3 more Sarries.
Are you counting Barrington and Beaton that have I believed signed for Ampthill?
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:16 pm
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:29 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:17 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:13 am
Notts and Ampthill had I think four a piece so that would be in keeping. Admittedly I might be missing more Sarries players for Ampthill but Notts have only borrowed Van Der Flier, Manz ,Ilione and Myall (good result for Notts).
Ampthill had 7 sarries from 1-10 when I stopped counting. Easter did some top trolling!
https://x.com/nick_easter/status/1839639476634579172
Scottish have at least 8 quins in their starting xv most weeks. When we played Ampthill at home last year, they had 8 sarries starters, plus two loan players from Ospreys, and they then brought on 3 more Sarries.
Are you counting Barrington and Beaton that have I believed signed for Ampthill?
Not Barrington. My pals from Chinnor say 11 Sarries in the 23.
Whatever it’s still a bizarre model and why 3 Ampthill stalwarts have joined us.
Oh and were you aware that all of Scottish, Bedford, Nottingham, Ampthill pay a six figure sum to their Prem buddies for access to these players and also some coaches. Weird old world. Pirates, Scottish and Ampthill all declined to limit loanees.
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:04 pm
by FKAS
Banquo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:16 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:29 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:17 pm
Ampthill had 7 sarries from 1-10 when I stopped counting. Easter did some top trolling!
https://x.com/nick_easter/status/1839639476634579172
Scottish have at least 8 quins in their starting xv most weeks. When we played Ampthill at home last year, they had 8 sarries starters, plus two loan players from Ospreys, and they then brought on 3 more Sarries.
Are you counting Barrington and Beaton that have I believed signed for Ampthill?
Not Barrington. My pals from Chinnor say 11 Sarries in the 23.
Whatever it’s still a bizarre model and why 3 Ampthill stalwarts have joined us.
Oh and were you aware that all of Scottish, Bedford, Nottingham, Ampthill pay a six figure sum to their Prem buddies for access to these players and also some coaches. Weird old world. Pirates, Scottish and Ampthill all declined to limit loanees.
Interesting. I suppose it depends how big the fee is and which coaches, amenities and players you get access to. If you get access to coaches, players and amenities above what you ordinarily would and it means you can cut back on your own coaches, players and amenities costs as a result it might well work for you as a club.
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:09 pm
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:04 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:16 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:29 pm
Are you counting Barrington and Beaton that have I believed signed for Ampthill?
Not Barrington. My pals from Chinnor say 11 Sarries in the 23.
Whatever it’s still a bizarre model and why 3 Ampthill stalwarts have joined us.
Oh and were you aware that all of Scottish, Bedford, Nottingham, Ampthill pay a six figure sum to their Prem buddies for access to these players and also some coaches. Weird old world. Pirates, Scottish and Ampthill all declined to limit loanees.
Interesting. I suppose it depends how big the fee is and which coaches, amenities and players you get access to. If you get access to coaches, players and amenities above what you ordinarily would and it means you can cut back on your own coaches, players and amenities costs as a result it might well work for you as a club.
Well yes, that’s why they do it


. It’s the degree they do it to that is the issue if you look at Ampthill and Scottish especially. And Hartpury tbh, but a different model slightly.
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:37 am
by Epaminondas Pules
Think I counted 9 in the starting lineup. I see Gus scored twice.
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:48 am
by Banquo
Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:37 am
Think I counted 9 in the starting lineup. I see Gus scored twice.
Gus?
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:52 am
by Epaminondas Pules
Banquo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:48 am
Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:37 am
Think I counted 9 in the starting lineup. I see Gus scored twice.
Gus?
Angus Hall.
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:17 am
by Banquo
Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:52 am
Banquo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:48 am
Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:37 am
Think I counted 9 in the starting lineup. I see Gus scored twice.
Gus?
Angus Hall.
think he got one, Hallett another (a smaller version of Hall I assume

)
Both Sarries tho.
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:00 pm
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:17 am
Hallett… (a smaller version of Hall I assume

)

Re: Loan watch
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:10 am
by Which Tyler
Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:05 pm
Bath*:
Hartpury RFC
Will Jeanes
Thompson Cowan
Rams
Ioan Emanuel
Luke Graham
Doncaster Knights
Arthur Green
*think this is right. Which please correct any mistakes
That's all the loans we know about (so probably not ALL of the loans)
For BUCS:
https://www.bathrugby.com/content/twelv ... p-for-bucs
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:25 pm
by jimKRFC
Bristol loanees are:
Doncaster - Andrew Turner
Dings (national league 1) - JImmy Halliwell, Louie Trevett, Tomas Gwilliam, Harry Rowson, Jack Bates, Joe Owen, Kofi Cripps, Aron Tull, Deago Bailey
Hornets (NL2 West) - Sam Scott, Ethan Surrey
Loughborogh (BUCS) - Jacob Cusick, Ed Harvey
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:32 pm
by FKAS
Archie Van Der Flier, Tom Manz, Sam Williams and Charlie Myall all set to start for Notts tomorrow night.
Ilione not with Notts this week, hopefully means he's with the first team. Apparently he was in the Championship team of the week for his efforts last weekend.
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:16 pm
by Banquo
jimKRFC wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:25 pm
Bristol loanees are:
Doncaster - Andrew Turner
Dings (national league 1) - JImmy Halliwell, Louie Trevett, Tomas Gwilliam, Harry Rowson, Jack Bates, Joe Owen, Kofi Cripps, Aron Tull, Deago Bailey
Hornets (NL2 West) - Sam Scott, Ethan Surrey
Loughborogh (BUCS) - Jacob Cusick, Ed Harvey
Bet there’s a few at Harpury too….
Re: Loan watch
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:27 pm
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:32 pm
Archie Van Der Flier, Tom Manz, Sam Williams and Charlie Myall all set to start for Notts tomorrow night.
Ilione not with Notts this week, hopefully means he's with the first team. Apparently he was in the Championship team of the week for his efforts last weekend.
Ampthill with 9 changes to their starting xv with a lot of Sarries going back home.
Beltus Nonleh recalled from us by Saints… in order for Bedford to play him.
What a lark.