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£50m for Stones
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:22 pm
by WaspInWales
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36693122
Still, if City are happy to pay that, then Everton would be mad not to sell. Great prospect that he is, he is far from the finished article.
Re: £50m for Stones
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:01 pm
by Numbers
Yeah, it appears that centrebacks are required to play the ball out of defence these days, I always thouhght defending was the most important part, the amount of times Stones gave the ball away last season was incredible.
Re: £50m for Stones
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:14 pm
by jared_7
You would think City would learn from Sterling that maybe its worth waiting a season or two for these players to settle down a bit, but in fairness to them they have the cash and probably most importantly, they need the English players. If Stones was Spanish, you'd pick him up for about £7m.
Re: £50m for Stones
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:33 pm
by Numbers
If I were an England fan I would be quite annoyed that one of our your most promising youngsters could be going to warm the bench at City - the scourge of English defensive talent over the last decade (Lescott, RIchards).
Re: £50m for Stones
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:01 pm
by Stom
Numbers wrote:
Yeah, it appears that centrebacks are required to play the ball out of defence these days, I always thouhght defending was the most important part, the amount of times Stones gave the ball away last season was incredible.
No-one played well for Everton last season. So is it the defender or the system?
I'd go for the latter.
Re: £50m for Stones
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:20 pm
by Numbers
Stom wrote:Numbers wrote:
Yeah, it appears that centrebacks are required to play the ball out of defence these days, I always thouhght defending was the most important part, the amount of times Stones gave the ball away last season was incredible.
No-one played well for Everton last season. So is it the defender or the system?
I'd go for the latter.
The system doesn't require you to pass the ball to the opposition, which he did, on innumerable occasions last season, as an Everton fan I watched quite a few of the games.
You could blame Martinez for his insistence for playing the ball out from the back but that seems to be the main plus people are always lauding about Stones.
Re: £50m for Stones
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:58 am
by WaspInWales
I wonder if Stones may be better off in the kind of role that Dier played for England recently?
He does have great feet for a defender so would be good going forward and it may relieve a little pressure on him being the last line of defence which is where he makes most of his errors.
Re: £50m for Stones
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:15 pm
by Numbers
WaspInWales wrote:I wonder if Stones may be better off in the kind of role that Dier played for England recently?
He does have great feet for a defender so would be good going forward and it may relieve a little pressure on him being the last line of defence which is where he makes most of his errors.
Ideal I would say.
Re: £50m for Stones
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:43 am
by Discreet Hooker
Numbers wrote:If I were an England fan I would be quite annoyed that one of our your most promising youngsters could be going to warm the bench at City - the scourge of English defensive talent over the last decade (Lescott, RIchards).
No expert on footie but Lescott has to be one of the least talented players despite huge sums paid for him by clubs . At Villa last season he looked as tho' he'd have trouble trapping a medicine ball .
Re: £50m for Stones
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:05 am
by Stom
Discreet Hooker wrote:Numbers wrote:If I were an England fan I would be quite annoyed that one of our your most promising youngsters could be going to warm the bench at City - the scourge of English defensive talent over the last decade (Lescott, RIchards).
No expert on footie but Lescott has to be one of the least talented players despite huge sums paid for him by clubs . At Villa last season he looked as tho' he'd have trouble trapping a medicine ball .
He was one of those quick, strong players bought by a big team because they thought they could mould him into something. Then it turned out they couldn't, so he rotted on the bench for years and became worse. Then he lost his pace and suddenly he's a pretty crappy player.
City shouldn't have that problem again, although Mangala...
Talk is it isn't Stones the 50mil is marked for, it's Bonucci. Which is interesting. 50mil for a 29 year old CB isn't really much of an investment for the future :p