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Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:05 pm
by J Dory
Can anyone enlighten me as to the qualification rules for the pools. With NZ loosing their first game, they obviously need to win the other two, but if Japan beat Kenya, and NZ beat GB, then GB, Japan and NZ will be on two wins. How does it work then, points difference?
Best case for NZ I guess is if Kenya beat Japan, then NZ beat GB, making it beyond doubt.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:10 pm
by OptimisticJock
Points
Head to head
Points difference
Points scored
I believe.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:12 pm
by bruce
So with JD's scenario above it comes down to points difference and then points scored?
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:15 pm
by Which Tyler
Equally, France and SA go through on points difference from Aus who may get a lucky looser slot.
ETA: That try confirms Japan as going through.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:18 pm
by J Dory
Japan looking good for the win right now, NZ so if NZ beat GB, it will come down to points difference. Fck me, they need to win that game, and by a handsome margin.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:18 pm
by OptimisticJock
I'm only supplying the tools, you need to do your own working.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:21 pm
by Which Tyler
Japan end up with 7 points, and +24 PD
If I've got my maths right:
If NZ win it comes down to points difference, if NZ win by 1 or 2, then GB and Japan go through
If NZ win by 3 or more, then NZ and Japan go though
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:23 pm
by J Dory
OK, so if NZ win, Japan beats NZ, NZ beats GB, and GB beats Japan. So how does the head to head thing work?
For points diff, NZ currently sitting on 21, Japan on 24 and GB on 26. So NZ needs to win by 6?
Edit: by 3, doh.
C'mon kiwis.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:27 pm
by Which Tyler
J Dory wrote:OK, so if NZ win, Japan beats NZ, NZ beats GB, and GB beats Japan. So how does the head to head thing work?
For points diff, NZ currently sitting on 21, Japan on 24 and GB on 26. So NZ needs to win by 6?
Edit: by 3, doh.
C'mon kiwis.
If the kiwis win by 4+ they top the group
If the kiwis win by 3 they go through in 2nd place
If the kiwis win by <3 they come 3rd on PD
A draw or GB win means kiwis come 3rd on match points.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:30 pm
by J Dory
Wait, it gets more complicated. The best two third place teams also go through to make 8 quarter finalists.
A win for NZ means they are through I believe.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:32 pm
by Which Tyler
Knew I was forgetting something this time - yes; your PD is enough to beat the Aussies as a lucky loser regardless or Argentina vs Brazil (who need to win by 8 to equal with the aussies and make it complicated again) - if you win.
C'mon GB - well played Norton & Bennett
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:34 pm
by J Dory
fckity fck fck
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:35 pm
by Which Tyler
So far, I'm enjoying this match
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:36 pm
by J Dory
Oh dear. NZ looking slow. C'mon boys.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:37 pm
by OptimisticJock
Superb
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:37 pm
by Which Tyler
still enjoying this; and Eddie still hasn't run the maths.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:38 pm
by J Dory
poos
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:44 pm
by Which Tyler
2nd half is less fun
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:46 pm
by switchskier
Going to be an interesting last minute.
And just for form, the second try was forwards.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:48 pm
by Which Tyler
TFFT.
GB top the group; Japan go through in 2nd.
Assuming Argentina beat Brazil (or even draw), then NZ go home.
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:49 pm
by OptimisticJock
That'll do
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:55 pm
by Which Tyler
No, bugger; if Fiji beat USA (by more than 4); then USA will also finish on 5 points, and a worse PD than NZ; so they will go through. Dammit!
Re: RE: Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:06 pm
by Donny osmond
Which Tyler wrote:No, bugger; if Fiji beat USA (by more than 4); then USA will also finish on 5 points, and a worse PD than NZ; so they will go through. Dammit!
USA USA USA USA
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:11 pm
by Which Tyler
Don't; if I hear that chant I'll have to stop supporting them
Re: Olympic Sevens
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:16 pm
by bruce
Are NZ the new plucky loses?